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On 17/10/2020 18:16, LARONDE Thierry wrote:
> Hello,
>
> FWIW, one can not dump LaTeX on a virgin system (say D. E. Knuth
> engines and fonts) if the following 4 tfm files are missing:
>
> line10.tfm
> linew10.tfm
> lcircle10.tfm
> lcirclew10.tfm


True but that's always been the case, since at least latex 2.09 in the=20
1980s. They are latex picture mode fonts developed alongside the=20
original latex macros.


>
> For required/graphics, the driver dvips.def is not anymore generated
> by graphics-drivers.ins: it has to be get from contrib/graphics-def.
> (Not a problem for me, I know where to find it; but it could be
> mentioned in the doc.)


no currently maintained drivers are generated by the graphics package=20
ins file, I should probably make the graphics-drivers.ins file a no-op,=20
keeping the dtx for documentation on driver structure. Hard to believe=20
that anyone is downloading a new distribution and using emtex.def for=20
example.

I agree the first section of drivers.dtx probably should say something.=20
and give a pointer to the graphics-def collection, however this is=20
documented, the main documentation for graphics is grfguide.tex which says

The following driver options are declared in the packages.
The matching definition files (\emph{driver}|.def|)
are now also maintained by the \LaTeX\ project,
but distributed separately, in the CTAN |graphics-def| collection.
\begin{quote}\raggedright
 =C2=A0 |dvipdfmx|, |dvips|, |dvisvgm|, |luatex|, |pdftex|, |xetex|
\end{quote}



>
> Neither ltxcheck nor sample2e.tex can be processed if the EC fonts are
> missing (required?).

T1/TS1 encoded computer modern has always been required for latex2e,=20
although the actual change affecting sample2e is this (in texlive 2019)


\DeclareTextSymbolDefault{\textdollar}{TS1}
\UndeclareTextCommand{\textdollar}=C2=A0 {OT1}=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 % don't use the OT1=20
def any longer


so that $ is available in all styles without contortions to avoid=20
turning into =C2=A3 in italic which means that the text symbol font gets us=
ed=20
in this example document.

> On a side note (since core babel is required): could you tell the babel
> developers

Javier is on this list I think , so you contacted him already:-)

>   to correct babel.ins in order to not provoke an unnecessary
> overwrite check by docstrip, because "babel.log" is also used as the
> output name of a file created as a side effect. Namely, in:
>
> % Dummy, it just read "modules" to be used when generating
> % the actual file. There must be a better way.
> \savingtrue
> \generate{\usepreamble\empty
>            \usepostamble\empty
>            \file{babel.log}{\from{babel.dtx}{dummy}}}
> \savingfalse
>
> replace babel.log by dummy.log, for example (this is what I do by ed'ing
> or sed'ing the file; but the less custom processing, the better ;)


If you use the supplied l3build script and unpack with `l3build install`=20
this isn't actually a problem but it does seem a bit odd, perhaps leave=20
an issue at https://github.com/latex3/babel/issues so it doesn't get=20
forgotten.


>
> Best,


Thanks for the comments,

David

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 17/10/2020 18:16, LARONDE Thierry
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">Hello,

FWIW, one can not dump LaTeX on a virgin system (say D. E. Knuth
engines and fonts) if the following 4 tfm files are missing:

line10.tfm
linew10.tfm
lcircle10.tfm
lcirclew10.tfm</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>True but that's always been the case, since at least latex 2.09
      in the 1980s. They are latex picture mode fonts developed
      alongside the original latex macros.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">

For required/graphics, the driver dvips.def is not anymore generated
by graphics-drivers.ins: it has to be get from contrib/graphics-def.
(Not a problem for me, I know where to find it; but it could be=20
mentioned in the doc.)</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>no currently maintained drivers are generated by the graphics
      package ins file, I should probably make the graphics-drivers.ins
      file a no-op, keeping the dtx for documentation on driver
      structure. Hard to believe that anyone is downloading a new
      distribution and using emtex.def for example.</p>
    <p>I agree the first section of drivers.dtx probably should say
      something. and give a pointer to the graphics-def collection,
      however this is documented, the main documentation for graphics is
      grfguide.tex which says</p>
    <p>The following driver options are declared in the packages.<br>
      The matching definition files (\emph{driver}|.def|)<br>
      are now also maintained by the \LaTeX\ project,<br>
      but distributed separately, in the CTAN |graphics-def| collection.<br=
>
      \begin{quote}\raggedright<br>
      &nbsp; |dvipdfmx|, |dvips|, |dvisvgm|, |luatex|, |pdftex|, |xetex|<br=
>
      \end{quote}<br>
      <br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">

Neither ltxcheck nor sample2e.tex can be processed if the EC fonts are
missing (required?).</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>T1/TS1 encoded computer modern has always been required for
      latex2e, although the actual change affecting sample2e is this (in
      texlive 2019)<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>\DeclareTextSymbolDefault{\textdollar}{TS1}<br>
      \UndeclareTextCommand{\textdollar}&nbsp; {OT1}&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; % don't use the
      OT1 def any longer</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>so that $ is available in all styles without contortions to avoid
      turning into =C2=A3 in italic which means that the text symbol font
      gets used in this example document.</p>
    <p>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">
On a side note (since core babel is required): could you tell the babel
developers</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Javier is on this list I think , so you contacted him already:-)<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D""> to correct babel.ins in order=
 to not provoke an unnecessary
overwrite check by docstrip, because &quot;babel.log&quot; is also used as =
the
output name of a file created as a side effect. Namely, in:

% Dummy, it just read &quot;modules&quot; to be used when generating
% the actual file. There must be a better way.
\savingtrue
\generate{\usepreamble\empty
          \usepostamble\empty
          \file{babel.log}{\from{babel.dtx}{dummy}}}
\savingfalse

replace babel.log by dummy.log, for example (this is what I do by ed'ing
or sed'ing the file; but the less custom processing, the better ;)</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>If you use the supplied l3build script and unpack with `l3build
      install` this isn't actually a problem but it does seem a bit odd,
      perhaps leave an issue at <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"=
https://github.com/latex3/babel/issues">https://github.com/latex3/babel/iss=
ues</a>
      so it doesn't get forgotten.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:20201017171655.GA16495@polynum.co=
m">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">

Best,
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks for the comments,</p>
    <p>David<br>
    </p>
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