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On 07/05/2018 23:24, Juergen Fenn wrote:
> I think that's a good point. Given the pace of development in LaTeX
> nowadays, I wonder whether this is the way to build a new standard. Who
> cares about latexrelease, \UseRawInputEncoding, etc. after all?

Hopefully no-one cares much and few people notice.
But that is the point and why core systems need to be maintained and=20
occasionally updated.

While UTF-8 was first designed in 1992, it's fairly certain that no one=20
was writing latex documents in UTF-8 when latex2e was designed in 1993.

Now virtually all editors and operating systems default to UTF-8. The=20
fact that for most users, most of the time, "it just works", required=20
some internal changes and those changes may possibly affect documents=20
doing odd things in some cases. Hence the latexrelease and=20
UseRawInputEncoding possibilities for reverting some of those internal=20
changes, but they are not something most users should ever expect to use.

What this means for bibtex isn't so clear but the general issue of=20
whether you need to update the core system and how to manage=20
compatibility in edge cases that are adversely affected by any change=20
applies of course to any software not just bibtex of latex.


David

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<html><head><style type=3D"text/css">.style1 {font-family: "Times New Roman=
";}</style></head><body>On 07/05/2018 23:24, Juergen Fenn wrote:<BR>
&gt; I think that's a good point. Given the pace of development in LaTeX<BR=
>
&gt; nowadays, I wonder whether this is the way to build a new standard. Wh=
o<BR>
&gt; cares about latexrelease, \UseRawInputEncoding, etc. after all?<BR>
<BR>
Hopefully no-one cares much and few people notice.<BR>
But that is the point and why core systems need to be maintained and <BR>
occasionally updated.<BR>
<BR>
While UTF-8 was first designed in 1992, it's fairly certain that no one <BR=
>
was writing latex documents in UTF-8 when latex2e was designed in 1993.<BR>
<BR>
Now virtually all editors and operating systems default to UTF-8. The <BR>
fact that for most users, most of the time, &quot;it just works&quot;, requ=
ired <BR>
some internal changes and those changes may possibly affect documents <BR>
doing odd things in some cases. Hence the latexrelease and <BR>
UseRawInputEncoding possibilities for reverting some of those internal <BR>
changes, but they are not something most users should ever expect to use.<B=
R>
<BR>
What this means for bibtex isn't so clear but the general issue of <BR>
whether you need to update the core system and how to manage <BR>
compatibility in edge cases that are adversely affected by any change <BR>
applies of course to any software not just bibtex of latex.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
David<BR>

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