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The contradiction is only apparent: to produce bibliographic records, and to use them in typesetting are two rather different things. Since the former is quite easy, and the latter can be very hard, it is not that surprising that many bibliographic databases use the BibTeX format, often next to several others (no less than 9, for my local library services -- the majority of them actually being preformatted entries according to some style). If anything, the comparatively slow pace of development of BibTeX & al. has contributed to its format becoming standard. Best, Arthur