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Joseph pointed out: https://github.com/TeX-Live/texlive-source.

It's good that TeX-Live is using github. I'm particularly pleased by
https://travis-ci.org/TeX-Live/texlive-source. I don't recall seeing this
before - a recent addition?

However, as Joseph points out, perhaps not a suitable place for the present
discussion.


On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Joseph Wright <
joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk> wrote:

> On 06/05/2018 12:17, Jonathan Fine wrote:
>
>> Juergen points out that changing bibtex mind break things. I'd like to
>> ask,
>> is this the right place for the present discussion?
>>
>> According to https://www.latex-project.org/latex3/code/, the present list
>> "is intended solely for discussing ideas and concepts for future versions
>> of LaTeX".
>>
>> According to http://tug.org/bibtex/, the mailing list for [bibtex] bugs
>> and
>> discussion is at http://tug.org/pipermail/biblio/
>>
>> There are github repositories for biber and biblatex.
>> https://github.com/plk/biblatex
>> https://github.com/plk/biber
>>
>> I think putting the current source for bibtex up on github would be a good
>> first step for Oren being able to do the right thing for bibtex. And it
>> might provide a better place for carrying out the present discussion.
>>
>
> In terms of the source code for the BibTeX binary, the TeX Live SVN
> sources area (which acts as a 'home' for a number of programs) is available
> in a mirrored form on GitHub: https://github.com/TeX-Live/texlive-source.
> Notably, that allows one to fiddle about with sources and see if they still
> build: it's set up for CI testing. Of course, the current discussion is
> likely not at the level of detailed code changes.
>
> (Some of the discussion here applies to the standard .bst files: those are
> I think simply in [texmf]/bibtex/bst/base, so again in the TL SVN but the
> 'Master' part, which is too big for GitHub.)
>
> Joseph
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Joseph pointed out:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.co=
m/TeX-Live/texlive-source">https://github.com/TeX-Live/texlive-source</a>.<=
/div><div><br></div>It&#39;s good that TeX-Live is using github. I&#39;m pa=
rticularly pleased by=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://travis-ci.org/TeX-Live/texliv=
e-source">https://travis-ci.org/TeX-Live/texlive-source</a>. I don&#39;t re=
call seeing this before - a recent addition?<div><br></div><div>However, as=
 Joseph points out, perhaps not a suitable place for the present discussion=
.<br><div><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Joseph Wright <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk" target=3D"_bl=
ank">joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 06/05/2018 12:17, Jonathan Fine wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Juergen points out that changing bibtex mind break things. I&#39;d like to =
ask,<br>
is this the right place for the present discussion?<br>
<br>
According to <a href=3D"https://www.latex-project.org/latex3/code/" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.latex-project.org/<wbr>latex3/cod=
e/</a>, the present list<br>
&quot;is intended solely for discussing ideas and concepts for future versi=
ons<br>
of LaTeX&quot;.<br>
<br>
According to <a href=3D"http://tug.org/bibtex/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">http://tug.org/bibtex/</a>, the mailing list for [bibtex] bugs =
and<br>
discussion is at <a href=3D"http://tug.org/pipermail/biblio/" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">http://tug.org/pipermail/bibli<wbr>o/</a><br>
<br>
There are github repositories for biber and biblatex.<br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/plk/biblatex" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://github.com/plk/biblate<wbr>x</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://github.com/plk/biber" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://github.com/plk/biber</a><br>
<br>
I think putting the current source for bibtex up on github would be a good<=
br>
first step for Oren being able to do the right thing for bibtex. And it<br>
might provide a better place for carrying out the present discussion.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
In terms of the source code for the BibTeX binary, the TeX Live SVN sources=
 area (which acts as a &#39;home&#39; for a number of programs) is availabl=
e in a mirrored form on GitHub: <a href=3D"https://github.com/TeX-Live/texl=
ive-source" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/TeX-Liv=
e/te<wbr>xlive-source</a>. Notably, that allows one to fiddle about with so=
urces and see if they still build: it&#39;s set up for CI testing. Of cours=
e, the current discussion is likely not at the level of detailed code chang=
es.<br>
<br>
(Some of the discussion here applies to the standard .bst files: those are =
I think simply in [texmf]/bibtex/bst/base, so again in the TL SVN but the &=
#39;Master&#39; part, which is too big for GitHub.)<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><=
font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
Joseph<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

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