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[51.7.230.51]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f83-v6sm8786308wmh.32.2018.05.06.07.44.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 May 2018 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <201805042236.w44MaTV0010317@freefriends.org> <29a641dd-a634-b9e6-7c56-89d9e9e96e0b@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <6ff15a32-5e88-bfb3-8a03-8c386ca119b6@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 15:44:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: bibtex futures: url, doi, ? 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I'd like to ask, > is this the right place for the present discussion? > > According to https://www.latex-project.org/latex3/code/, the present list > "is intended solely for discussing ideas and concepts for future versions > of LaTeX". > > According to http://tug.org/bibtex/, the mailing list for [bibtex] bugs and > discussion is at http://tug.org/pipermail/biblio/ > > There are github repositories for biber and biblatex. > https://github.com/plk/biblatex > https://github.com/plk/biber > > I think putting the current source for bibtex up on github would be a good > first step for Oren being able to do the right thing for bibtex. And it > might provide a better place for carrying out the present discussion. In terms of the source code for the BibTeX binary, the TeX Live SVN sources area (which acts as a 'home' for a number of programs) is available in a mirrored form on GitHub: https://github.com/TeX-Live/texlive-source. Notably, that allows one to fiddle about with sources and see if they still build: it's set up for CI testing. Of course, the current discussion is likely not at the level of detailed code changes. (Some of the discussion here applies to the standard .bst files: those are I think simply in [texmf]/bibtex/bst/base, so again in the TL SVN but the 'Master' part, which is too big for GitHub.) Joseph