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Certainly the differences are small enough that if a > small compatibility layer is needed an updated luatexbase.sty could, if > the luatexbase maintainers agree, input ltluatex and fill any gaps, but > it may be by the time we are done, there are no gaps that need filling. OK, so I have these two module loading and callback related feature requests. Whom should I contact about those? LaTeX team or luatexbase maintainers? As I understand it, you're trying to make the luatexbase package obsolete. Which a) puts additional maintenance burden on the LaTeX team and b) means that new features related to resource allocation will be released in sync with new LaTeX versions only (as resource allocation is completely implemented as part of the format). I'm still not easy with this approach. Best regards, Stephan Hennig