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Are they on >> the list by error? And if they are obsolete, which functions are meant >> to replace them? >> >> Alexander > > Ah, a tricky one :-) > > These functions were first in expl3 many years ago (I'd have to check > the logs for when they were first added). We had a tidy up and they were > removed whilst the cycle for deprecation was not as defined as it is > now. However, we later realised that as part of the now-current > interface for this area, \io(r|w)_new:N should be restored with a > different implementation. > > Probably it is clearest if they are not in the obsolete list as a > result: I'll remove them. > -- > Joseph Wright I should add that the timing here might look a bit odd as the 'old' versions were deprecated some time before they were removed. The latter coincided with when we revisited that area! -- Joseph Wright