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Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:39:52 +0100 References: <20150715123206.GA31203@hzdr.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk Message-ID: <55A65498.8010608@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:39:52 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: \iow_new:N, \ior_new:N To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <20150715123206.GA31203@hzdr.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:7y9mBxbHfFg=:BjZ6kGEFxkeap5HLqXVVg+XHzt RF12DcWa+GmaafcVgT27RFtYud2O9VqApLxoIu3gUQe6lBQbvaQeX2aHKah6vxTRRNLQjBZih XJmlEgOw07Oh5lcjV5TD1zrxl4VGWbQHRqN4lHfqVH1Qj2dYQFf5SxftsY2AeSk/MpcO2UPMv rEBCf+47mdwGtZarvoSQT7QZtZRZAuwQS0eH9SbEbG0TSsAY0E9uDRWK/OvvYOjiGyxNZo7/l JMSRWyeTZ8mq3box0YzZD/dYHs28QNQYQd1LpfCC8qk3EKpxddhj2opiTPBy/HJ2PjD87kLn8 OpFpTbhyKKEMvbDzG55XsVCupQivArv3jigZPfsBouOnUVju+MHCJmd+j6sjRYFH9d77YJQFd rGbxWU+JBDF8+ZbgqLPvgNhk1c/Gp9BcZS2RQ4IBHezjWols3wVY4VWiQSl0iBG95Yy8FcweC ZVkerjNBRGh6Md3DV65M5mY0pNnfhmt2I6gs6LzeMeehvUKZlZPRunhdsiRwZIZN1DZykEjiS eL9sEsnjDFJQ2Nqhgn6zstOVrjk+B5Tcc1xMq1L+r9wFb+O0qqG/f039zv2VrFpKLZ0hhgTnn 9tMyP2jYa+H4Af7ma4ai5jCXOA1uQ2iOmCK7j6qeEfwdOC3vqxuaeCQa39Faw6DWoXY9qzv1o tNoi5gJEgDai4PpkPv9bgaBbYGi8gIKtnpKaahlzlXGmrnP+M3mZuXYHXxCu3nDhnDy7e4G6g PjlYm9qW5aAQ4FpleAxk906kaE33EMcNh7IExxzlghFjBIb71xtoinDECeMY+HCUtR1RYSTE1 XrGjxd9Qfuju4D13qhoZExK8dFb0WMsPi2UaX59OjV+wZatADOjHy8U2frbmK+/idyeq/p0YC ga9Pe2ULOVmJRppJ0tLc1yGQR4AcAU2o7u0NVs/cqHAkAG1N6l3vnfdxMNrEZUw2MjD6uZzKT HbKZgsU0yKhrxaoiKmDrg04f2I+qbxF9lkWWftTr5fQceNDQIDbPPefQSReqiG4qzkTZPnO5J WvOoPQ3MCvxZbCphItH7vCSmFFj3qRIOtO58Nqwpsxdz7FjYGg2uaoFbQdKih2SZrnTcNQhia Lxi+LFxVr1efrGZdCzCvWFl/vEBtDbOIki2AOkot6eoCYvvR89dj3rqQvV35dsN4zhKZ/N4MA aAfHluv1pxONgciYaSJntcU7GonkkWFPvSTm1JJkoZP4RlzeoJyYBB3XOun76QvFZfqADuzSX 6JMwhnLaaOIx8d1kjAbNpszjaoPLHQszWSLkhCSkkGCzKmo3t1YcNmnE8wG6jGNQzcwD+5w3H UB/qSYZtujC225npEMnxPYkXzfoLgG3K3s5s7ObqbwNLkig3d4CXQ8WRlqVD6izdxJkPMbm89 O81GBAJhwe3bqcJvvU4RX4bjC/otVv/TxlsGb004N87hidR19hhkt0MOB4PidBOShQjgfc3+2 KosiicYQ+UM2Di9Syppz+Go0Guvio3tU9ckB52LvVeC2xxB4ajzWJcKxscUNCnEuvUy+EvnA= = X-UI-Loop:V01:FIlRd/3RbBk=:acan7FIPbLxqzV0GRxNzx5WrBup5VYL5H6JYrIAbQFw= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:HqolqJiz2eU=:o6gB70JfXrwGr4sP4U617D +uEpUlHERV6grhaObxMXSApceOBirmKAUotaDXD5oYxJddm9Jw9Jsb+RzvG2aTyZTSSxkFT7n 4MfTGk0uYBz5go2eJ3TsBobLQhQKTVLwoNfIWdtyvSPAtOETW5nmWcKDmSf+bZcIhTOt3PXNs uqYTXcCybALPY/GxBYrUiPDYlHwku8N8x4PXCqQyEjm22bZ6aZC9sF5PQ9vY/sM0YUO/3vtp3 mZ0XxXMWmMO0MGhErkJap/KIjl2aIX9lIetZ+MTYDelQGoZDx6NPimh4DcOfnxHhWjtPRpVpp XqTQVyPA5MheFmFXHvApsjGx9WVkxAM9SHuV7m4FmaoBtX0lBQcK8aMaoN305ZKbf7LJU60rO c4Wu3hG2o8cGJiwMpJSvN0mcVImedKJB0/NtQxvf77pkh0GduyLaU3xmsRwQPs+/WDBzGLpa9 wZsaI+BhXaghKKnflNsuMOuDLH7y+sPU77Dfy+k1uXfDMSuoMJIt X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7775 On 15/07/2015 13:32, Alexander Grahn wrote: > Good afternoon. > > According to > > http://www.latex-project.org/svnroot/experimental/trunk/l3kernel/l3obsolete.txt > > both functions were removed from the sources on 2011-09-08 (SVN 2786). > > Yet, they are still alive and documented in interface3.pdf. Are they on > the list by error? And if they are obsolete, which functions are meant > to replace them? > > Alexander Ah, a tricky one :-) These functions were first in expl3 many years ago (I'd have to check the logs for when they were first added). We had a tidy up and they were removed whilst the cycle for deprecation was not as defined as it is now. However, we later realised that as part of the now-current interface for this area, \io(r|w)_new:N should be restored with a different implementation. Probably it is clearest if they are not in the obsolete list as a result: I'll remove them. -- Joseph Wright