Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id t6DG8Cwt002034 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:08:13 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx108) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0Leim2-1YdgpH3WUI-00qR5K for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:08:06 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t6DG6BTv030231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:06:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t6DFIfip013815; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:06:11 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 12399448 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:06:11 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t6DG6BUA022256 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:06:11 +0200 Received: from mx02.posteo.de (mx02.posteo.de [89.146.194.165]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t6DG66Lm023447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:06:09 +0200 Received: from dovecot04.posteo.de (unknown [185.67.36.27]) by mx02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E04E81D1B2F0 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:05:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot04.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mVVFV3TFDzFpVh for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:05:50 +0200 (CEST) References: <559AE0A8.3080907@morningstar2.co.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <55A3E1DD.8050707@posteo.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:05:49 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Stephan Hennig Subject: Re: LuaTeX support in the LaTeX kernel To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <559AE0A8.3080907@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:RIXyDQNNs1U=:TL15E1lIKH3wRuzjUEBdu4F+iU wOgjka8yjwyGeUIBqpLqQvCMX/j5GPBH3ya2aI/zTKSXzbObWaVAXMx6uRJmYP49DejK6tWOS khAa8lVTwN39zppa6tWKNN8mz5ms2aWwTpemv31GgODDDF3qiV1i2f+7rwFMdvg5dtAJqW3dj 4Zi5aRBXyEB40CYHdFA7T9WBaRLFvphP9LYo4SN8gCTFYdXxMTVZ4D2pjUc8nqJlQ6s8lJENb KMx/krRchg18+XxbnmyO2pO7Q3cAcT6yw5+Nx7VRU3lI0Tm/HwiZ8Vi/ZMSxbVe/J5t3ZMArB jzlYqm31sn8qi7nwH73tXaZETOrQYZMzsS9VdxdjYkm8nhheqR9PEzK8fKmcN9c1kFq6N20vn rYvn+yAR9GHN5jToSUs5GlnmoK9EzdvvI7BnHTa7eFPIF9vsUo4L5alvS/8B9V9qUofU+LrwV A+R63pwjxEro6SXVIznXig4lLoqWc1fYilcnyqpK5ykNfSqbH0N1bAh0aH8v29TtVkZ4mNB/M XSJnv6j/6lXzmUSvzl0IPplDRVKSxxLNx1B12xgijQ4PWMSO6c8JwzgLeCrO81rkJnZa+dNbv h98q6lbLzgIur0R7Si7SSJf79ruTBc+cpADQmXv5yv/aj3UGD8HhQZ4g8yGerT/lxQ4e9NtfR abzmquDZjjFVQCERjFnR46XAsKYEkRlFOUeZAP6QCUhriARlRWL5emdyvSeD3hysikTZYCekV WKw2NBm288bB+6+TcNdJ92Ly5+S79syGflninQglOwH4fGZWSQyp9Q/iJsfgDOGL1cL3E2pTn hWBzUXZswUqnm3eg7a1LTx7q+WR6Yc/cBvwedB44vL+f8tuQcCO6/EVRwX8Z+79KYPGH6iRbw L2s2tl6tRZgOTcHeD5+WIYIcDiz13liITeMu0YDl+sniMTCZvJWqikgFVyn5xq0R4Z0y3uujO nz0qYg2/6cJin/wUmkwA0YqGRBG663LGEnQKWV0fXOPNZ8rmwWLC0KRSImLl8CHgYTPOSixrW QuF9L2VQzg+sVA7xVU4Z6z+ijyLtplM9zsMpVYQDNnHpPKDYmtufni0kjH8H3exJvBJ+m8aOQ bLZ0xA6SHJjVx96902oFFHydicijyQrU261rSCL8uFdUdcZQlR9fk0ZFLWZjWEaifAL+PFBOX 1VKXlOAOrYhNfx8/SGu2RoX1pmK74LFOe/Vl5y6uPLGkqKs66f7Os/EeE+KlzsWi6mfpMcIcW UNCJ0JdRwH8ps83VmnLWhkPSEZdxdxDa2dq11K4FovGu4SEbzuLNzgbtphMj9x4cz5Xx6+hWT IJWxBv+EAG7eYQ2qh0MWWbU2OY4SPxVPj156qENQ1tQ+wLUrgKJYKPBZsM9buysH+DceUx5Fi WTAbai1EIKNEpkwA0lA+he8A/MloymEdElD7LiWTD8ZXBJAcH7ISSazQ9zkhNP5O6l+8rZ5ca xc9NuH3Jtcdx01C0jRwLtIVDjUzlGlrU/29l/V88yVkgPSUCkr X-UI-Loop:V01:+A0HZiy3AAc=:4tGShb3Gp7WLCNWMbDboCLRbPsQElaSOT9QvEhLX0CI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:aufl3C7WBnE=:gZ/sQ5n1tjTxttDSEOfBK3 0vzMa+rmOJXCZeGlIJz2j/f+mhgcHEi8Sg1Zvfj6jD2alL3fCmv6pS3zrDSSrcYdJs6OHhdp+ EcaEvOQM7IRfN5dJtGWP1rzb7KUVoMXU23OaQSfdWumAXPEMbnKY3orQHDiqvZMRcqnIINDWS 2cA+hA2ZOmPqL4tgwg2Eit2qE7U8pGXwW4IYFqoa5AyTcXive07jYNTTIrIHRqRA93dFccVFR MRRX80OLjEhmbKUAOt+YH54m+l/MOMq9Lpfw/ezaLVYiSD6xivBV+sFk+wRTq8kVgW9ZSCjbb pwPNahbSa8ngcl5A96NibYON9cl/R8HeXXwjH+PCkMRVs5ZUYpVKPG5Fnw/UadH6Jo+tCqzBh 3G7hyOila9yHwh5DnPrOo970dQtSK0aTR/v7veTdx3ePXmkWT/bO3ce4RK26RgDgfqweGcVx2 cJDGYPKeZloMdBhgSQ1NlDsM4o63/0EdX5IcMNLEDx+O8lmTPop1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7760 Am 06.07.2015 um 22:10 schrieb Joseph Wright: > We are looking for feedback in two areas. Firstly, does the > functionality provided cover the needs of package authors using LuaTeX? > Secondly, we would like input on how a transition to new support code > can be managed. We are reluctant to suggest a complex compatibility > layer for either our code or the existing packages, and suspect at this > stage that a clean 'step change' may be needed for packages working with > LuaTeX. However, this is a complex area and needs careful consideration. Let me question the idea of implementing resource allocation stuff in the LaTeX kernel. What is the appropriate way to claim resources, e.g., attributes, in a format agnostic pure Lua low-level module foo.lua (which is then used in format specific wrappers/packages)? That foo.lua module can't certainly make use of function latex.new_attribute, since that is only available to LaTeX users. Or do I miss something? Best regards, Stephan Hennig