Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id t2OMZ0OE029621 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:35:01 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx110) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0Ld4UG-1ZIMYQ3DMm-00iAde for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:34:54 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t2OMWBDB015420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:32:11 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2OCC6m2018623; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:32:10 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 12028685 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:32:10 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2OMWA2K032657 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:32:10 +0100 Received: from freefriends.org (frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t2OMW5mW015399 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:32:08 +0100 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t2OMW46J010440 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:32:05 -0600 Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/submit) id t2OMW40R010436; Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:32:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <864mpaowm3.fsf@frenzy.freefriends.org> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:32:04 -0600 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Karl Berry Subject: Re: latex and unicode-letters To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <5511E1F9.9020808@morningstar2.co.uk> (message from Joseph Wright on Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:15:21 +0000) Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mMtyokHV4TU=:TnEH4XSHQWoaRTjmF/EN9yk1pf 1KVMxc1pumYafXZpIDg3krGzGnU1n2uurGTTtWJpaeeSYmh1qTwXZ+DIIQAKjkIFNhzdluGlJ i3EH8eQF7Rd7Kx0oLOeRGDGxGANPXeWlDQzBMOLbMP3+Lt7r6jYWQwrxD5xskejwvLAV0brnX p+s9+QTDte/e6Y2ZrNEUpoCc0KyBcRcX65CwDrZV4KkFhRrNXYir9IXQlbscMvjR3eMbjp3mA clCIG5b89m/fvdNvDgsaiL+VL1VPC3SaHfpOLa8JRnEw8uLMzZeBVmeRf5Scgs02soXC9M3sW kqzb4+VJfh5CXUJ8Ieh9EpleZPRp7frSWCWNz7scOQWTxqoSbCYqOmBhIqFxLmFJjuz3BdYwf yXNwam7Lc1MR5HLxweHBjfnbuFUX/pMxaZBCDXq4v8fmSOcPAH+fmgbZhyBGZFbx/jV+kiKO/ BDy5sYRjoGgUsVUxGj7qiyS0n4zoPZ8ZxJQmpGuihTTyJViOqfqlYRSeQToFccwk3wWGYwoQH ztpL9VnC3XFJeMuqbi/52oBM5uZlGXlRNTxfvSWJF5hSI2B4gumxqzwD2WKMQCxHjSsV8olFa vgbpqmNn3S/b2bmZilvJyY/iNOGucDf6Y2ij9btV/G3sjp6xM7XF09ZfdpVgCbZrkEs6xkMQR PXcaFJc6l5VVKcZWap157J9lF8RmrmTL5sk9uzWhno7aebaTN9TE3J8M8ugjcVjiP6lGq5W79 cnBaMWgEZeyBke1nnoV3MzqZXd8L5M2o19+fxfiyfb8gixifIZo0AhYiKj17/IXuQeHdt6fdk hJgBqABT6tWv8ehl5Zh9xRRp97Bv/nXHtG57YJ31Y+eG3yX2K+wGKf1GFbuzw7r+AxqyNnXzW DWjnqlFgrzrlpsdYGuXmlaX4FKDXN53Zltd5uixBrHLLvLdQzc2+/TVoQ/3xja1vLWFsjjhPq vCvXz4HtNwIBEqT7ujiDcojDwTVD+60BTXOU6MAL5LL2BXKZ/6/GWTSZlCdX9LQjhEA/YKgq1 3yyFGbfz+Cy8YVf3I2+CIR4M2Lk/5sjdh8YxG5j4/aXqzk9vmt7n70VD13m8ujIVeY1tXERLd o/Yg1fnaIW7/+Di/iN1MDM963Z3+/4YcRdYcjlucnHMk6sREyYlYDPzATfrWhTpq4ng4DFAgU VXHWcCXsVHm458gN0K3gagBUTJ3aFd+KfxIQyEPuje+lBt79SG4tsxk0KXVqNIra/sJ5RaDd9 qVDLiLXaxtVKYhAR5Lo6raCr8453N5ndizZmJoRq6i2oIOvtCkXagjQEskpqo8nBXen3BJSZO TuJogiC6UGOKVMDGU+HHMrI+YCwOpYqnZDcZcQAzAqHhlmmOE68eCVe0quQ3Qw8HMZH3niqmG ipWbZeGI1y7oLvQNTnhdjiKXMK7MV4qTwvY1aW4YClT9zXFPD/uacf/CVYZknUUoGvdiuLO+/ rx5zQj3/SkTX3FuJOsq8yI/HiWHKvoa/fuGaRY45XZDGQBOwQc X-UI-Loop:V01:mbICRSOcgZs=:w9giXqe4DENFb9fM75YHUCDjpL3g8Z+0rR1Zsd6viaM= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7676 Yes, ltunicode is a direct replacement for unicode-letters. Everything the latter does is covered by ltunicode. Great, thanks. Yes. (We could happily make ltunicode loadable by plain, but that might not be that helpful.) I was wondering about that. It actually sounds like a good thing in terms of maintenance to me. I would make a physical copy inside TL so that all of LaTeX is not pulled in for it, but having only one file, generated in one way, sounds preferable, if it's easy enough to do. Both EastAsianWidth.txt and LineBreak.txt have a version which we've talked about copying in to the processed file. Regrettably, there is no version in UnicodeData.txt: Yes, that's why I suggested something else :). I think it's also quite possible that Unicode has released ("updated") differing files with the same version number. Unicode versions in general are a hard problem. Thanks, K