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X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7675 On 24/03/2015 21:35, Karl Berry wrote: > Joseph and all, > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mh8c67bxidryr8h/AAAu4_Ez66syXyKwL3J83nn_a?dl=0 > > I finally had a chance to look at all this work. Very nice. I didn't > do a test install of it, but I don't expect any serious problems that > way. It would be helpful for that purpose if the .tds.zip files were > available as their own downloads, but anything can be made to work for > testing. I'll do that tomorrow (too late today to do the build). > The only question that I have for now is whether ltunicode plus your > other changes are intended to exactly replace everything that was in > unicode-letters? That is, was there anything known in unicode-letters > that is not now provided in the new LaTeX2e? I know you have the > new .ini files without unicode-letters, but I thought I'd ask explicitly > anyway. Yes, ltunicode is a direct replacement for unicode-letters. Everything the latter does is covered by ltunicode. > TL will still need unicode-letters for the plain lua+xe formats. Yes. (We could happily make ltunicode loadable by plain, but that might not be that helpful.) > Therefore it would be good to be in sync :). I gather you generated your > files from what is now at http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA. Yes, latest (7.0.0) Unicode data release. > To help in this, I wonder if we both might include somewhere the exact > file sizes, or something, of the three data files used in the generation > (UnicodeData.txt EastAsianWidth.txt LineBreak.txt). E.g., just in the > comments in ltunicode.dtx. That is the simplest "version" number I can > think of. I'll change the unicode-letters.tex stuff in this regard, at > least. Both EastAsianWidth.txt and LineBreak.txt have a version which we've talked about copying in to the processed file. Regrettably, there is no version in UnicodeData.txt: perhaps file size is the best plan, as you say. I will look at this. > Thanks for all this work. I both fear and look forward to trying it > for real :). Fingers-crossed! -- Joseph Wright