Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id t1S9D6Ie010280 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:13:07 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx008) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0LpOSr-1XojrV1jzZ-00fAW4 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:13:00 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1S9AS2C021643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:10:28 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1S5P5UD005907; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:10:28 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11830279 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:10:28 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1S9AS5B018013 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:10:28 +0100 Received: from smtp3.easily.co.uk (smtp3.easily.co.uk [91.194.151.18]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1S9AMfS021592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:10:25 +0100 Received: from [109.147.52.57] (port=59351 helo=palladium.local) by smtp3.easily.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1YRdPi-0001ds-2g for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:10:22 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201502272151.t1RLpk4s025848@freefriends.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <54F185FD.1010204@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:10:21 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: LaTeX2e Update 2015 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <201502272151.t1RLpk4s025848@freefriends.org> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:HUylDdM4mR8=:CiMR9aAx1sRi2pNwoBiqFzJvjr e4AcwRUDl8UtYMI14X99fJ7yyMTNLvdBQ5yIesYC2EZ8pQlD05jTDcfe+OzmKutmiWlSMblR+ RDeSijyApVGQjXlh8vf8qFI7wOMaZ5oRmwohh/6eOfcAqhUdh8uj9aCmQnLUX0O585XugEicu z2xV+CuqZZyKBLbfu8FworJwsgPdv/DPgnqfBlR/DA4wpcr3WcfC5xJqYg8UxfhCDhPrG3P7n QUPe1JxwyCMqlbkEsIMPbyckV6SYACW9NmynszePbnJ+vvZywTUR+iOijNlm1q9KbUYU/ALGj skp+fSwBKIiZ7kLiJk5blUJ3QTnOfj+yGaxulO6qaYA4p4LgU+QQgvmuyMUVCifui9rJnjbbD XAkR87gbfqua3hQIm+fLr/jdSwJIQNkEfTm6GwwO3WOvBpJmv7lssWJZd2zvKzX3buppyf80U k4EzT8scZZSh+0eAFTvLzyejiAuOAF0DHWOiakPlR3/E9lB87N6V0V8+JzhU58T3hMbJ6G9aq XRlJcVynyqBe7W5CysbsaeQMYlA15wy4fctBTVS8meD4q27LEvnR0jCht6KGbSV2/RjuTr/WL kycQfdsXYX6MkRYTmSV89SSmHRIKkMsiEgQdIzFnI4AXp7mrrVpgIOUifm3vXKSxiRK4aS5jG LCaZ5wL2vq99b3ue9EkNCHQhp4fgaia3SULK/xFguQGBeQSeNDjSYI2F54d/V84JMQbjJK2cS ArDmkugHOKUBQSe6Am/RWk3xSGU25uRNI63atKfMVsXNcoaM2cEdw22b8w/CkmGRFmWJO9ZTF Vj8O4X9nkWD044UluA8HOkzm0hajMBwOjOvJmEXCFfVqUpL+dXkyeADB7woiJdVO+j2SXSGiX CEOTepL5KdUFN4EERt/gchEhxc5+1/pa7vzY2evQEKG18pB/5mwDlJoTSeNZbZi8sV+uzli5j fk+ruvZ18Q5tEOM/1jDv2ofNPlujUXZg7IAEq32eLWKsVWHhkLQLUw5f2rGzcHc9cwl5ISKla 9bdcAGUupsdVDyuFnxACReRcBAKCFXifEH6NZM27Ye60BSzmkDzezTq/yCHll5FejdT4vOlrW 2v6xEkxk7oUWkoDfaW0r1mFmLNsXwesWUD2Uo9NZh+0aqDl3bRTIhvb22d2ndDKISIrugAhEA 8F8Wd0KZWvnXe9xZ9If6sWJNp3IpbPPjec/Fyi40xNrVWMhh0yu1RNtUg2zaCBJzpiz6htlIf RMcQkjIbyDh/i/TpNs6OF7XqrzMpOQE/MSTprPs/J4ZSyY+zg9ae0LTBVioo1BFbG4ino/9LS WOEOaV/Q0fXXqvxhZFuJWyY3OynHIbMc+pEZGFiBHApTjHt+G5mWfss8FbdYCsYeluVUxrFAS AILK+3UBKrWAJyAP15m98bTuAUuxve1MN36acev8cyqmEgrp9z181v+DYocYcBMv0diTMknxv /J8Mo1TsxTt7HjpDDMCtfl5Vkc+F6yD6a9cn5jS75K71MnVqie0gCtZw6eXU12xWgbD4IgQQ= = X-UI-Loop:V01:nNcq8tUZGcU=:zW6Qamx1l26DWu0vk4PCikizckypgKkKbJ8Oo16vbyI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7656 On 27/02/2015 21:51, Karl Berry wrote: > Before making a general release of the code to CTAN we are keen that > there is time for proper testing without any risk to 'production' > > I will at least look at the archive and especially the .ini files now, > for sure. I appreciate the early heads-up. > > In terms of distribution, my idea would be that we incorporate this new > latex into TL after the TL'14 freeze -- I'm currently thinking that will > be around April 10 (tug.org/texlive has my theoretical schedule). New > binaries will start being committed around then also. This will provide > maximum testing time by TL pretesters before the general release. We've been mindful that the TL '14 pretest deadline is coming up! > I'd also say you could even upload this version to CTAN at any time > (plus ctan-ann announcement), and I will simply refrain from updating > TL. Then people who are really anxious can get it from CTAN and provide > feedback. The task of installing it should weed out anyone who isn't > capable of understanding what they are doing :). There are other TeX systems :-) It's important we get some real 'opt-in' testing done before sending to CTAN. > Finally, we could/should also advertise the heck out of it. E.g., > perhaps your post could be turned into an item for TUGboat, or maybe > it's just a latex2e news installment. Whatever. Then we can print it > in the upcoming TUGboat, which should reach members right around the > time we are freezing TL and deploying the new stuff. I'm sure we can get something sorted for that. There will I think certainly be a talk on this topic for TUG2015 as well. -- Joseph Wright