Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id t1RLrJNK028368 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:53:20 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx108) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0MSYVk-1Y23g60rR6-00RZG6 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:53:14 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RLprfJ031459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:51:53 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RCTqn6031262; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:51:53 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11869069 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:51:53 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RLpria012380 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:51:53 +0100 Received: from freefriends.org (frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t1RLpl7p005469 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:51:50 +0100 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t1RLpkWm025849 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:51:46 -0700 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/submit) id t1RLpk4s025848; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:51:46 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: nobody set sender to karl@freefriends.org using -f Message-ID: <201502272151.t1RLpk4s025848@freefriends.org> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 21:51:46 GMT Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Karl Berry Subject: Re: LaTeX2e Update 2015 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <54F083C0.2020702@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:IpOwa0rBixQ=:aGMJv/5yE2j4c44sHS+dtjFHVx bhyXlQbUmW+1GEs1j3+VyiL9lEXpHPEtJGIn6QWXYGEVjBkMjDQHOcVfqW/TRJ9DMp6Tb6fST PfefNwB6mxG0rgeQZ/CmgSclg5uCa+1y3JCeX7uKFAEoc772Zs+AhOgqAsjEiVsnTDxbRtunk g1/pQ6zRpFsTYFjWUtZOUvYiNT9afYDcPRnnOrrao5j6zYqoxhia22pK2i8dXys+lU95vZJem z1xY0BH+U1EDXUMHL6zTFa9xIdBSLDFztVG4sqjTidWWaCskNIaYmohMteLSd/M8BPjsxmKlk Os5PR+efq30G8ecAZHaQbbE7w5I3I8z391Wb6arhLkNfi5Ie7kGhNmDR2bNzL6PJTn4kau+2g CscjEcYGtJ6TvKw0NWotOlQk/M/+IwyCdMZDkxVA5gzI2YYAdO9OktlDAvEKNQjsI1npyrRSI uKsT+PtLG/cwuSxeZgYgm0RsFj+227egTBfGryeuX10AtCQ/mJtLrM0QLYqQE4sZLbOtMGoz3 q82TEde1LxPtPD6Csp3NCDj3ykhD4nVEHcB1Xb42u6IdCIkpx+OYgihzcOoVxjwE2SF/IP1MP tYw0C0O+TcLnfrAh78iLHp385YEcPZ0leewUQrpxCXzauZ6wi8BIHlstu0EiXLqT/dm7hAWW4 A2CqNaTPbNhe3yvAVPXLu3CifUKPssQRTKuJ21SLvWzzgMPF0QMs+GezkNtmHkmyPOOvJN+OX sthCHWBGEUj5irABLqbYDN8PomVuQwk5+7Y0CMCoSyRGMLENJNuQ4LZ8bU2Lql2Xw1GJ5Vhx7 U092FNJ1psXdPnQKZHlerY5JYa8OUCzWr98wAT8NV5XpzTXih0uo8iqEySt9QKNzj0AXcnF1a ylvI6prWAjH5POwnj4h8eW/9V59jPzAKZ95OYKguQcNXHZIwz1CEHbl2f+YmHTjR2Osd4CNCV PsAgt5XyiUg5YT3jye0e38Jpvs0Fp2QXPuirY/4Lkypvqv3ER2dYFFxDJOY+lpLj15xUiopWE P8jMnK+E7R6KmGTanycavnf0TMzzVEffn32ybtWU9kHFmGrIh8Fi3ijX2N7u422T8Odsfl57y zQJslctwDbkUX/lD0Pzl/fwfJHZBH/k9iGMkCMNghrXiokKYRBou3mSzm4vzaoja1dVQT9f9W JjredQRgTBF4BKjgonDIHKuPXyemZojou6/vxFeNpFt9G/7CG+SkxN8VpTJlex3LMcru4RWCU Vu9tLsBfLUcjmypA+M0d1ahafpgeqLiHmpAb37xsagBDw65zyvdPlao0O/zonfBQRBZiPawu4 V4yzzEL9J7+ZEC315Azy+0LdBHUB3tSWJh3Bp2yuUXt+TCL22zzyltImUnMU0Tcanh/0NpbAB LZI7exbMuP9LsB3wZXXj+EUQS1zzpKOmzj327SIbh8gO9Dwt3F4aPVyazuNYTTCpJuyCzAFRw wUzrdONbMMRmVQYw8JQQqGPqTBOvw= X-UI-Loop:V01:xR6Zp5JB3Ck=:4TYvbEGJk9Q7y1d/dauyhu2VcNNcXL4DVATJwwNV+4Y= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7655 We hope this should mean that TeX system providers can use the team's code and documentation directly for their releases. Glad to hear of these changes. I will plan to do so. Before making a general release of the code to CTAN we are keen that there is time for proper testing without any risk to 'production' I will at least look at the archive and especially the .ini files now, for sure. I appreciate the early heads-up. In terms of distribution, my idea would be that we incorporate this new latex into TL after the TL'14 freeze -- I'm currently thinking that will be around April 10 (tug.org/texlive has my theoretical schedule). New binaries will start being committed around then also. This will provide maximum testing time by TL pretesters before the general release. I'd also say you could even upload this version to CTAN at any time (plus ctan-ann announcement), and I will simply refrain from updating TL. Then people who are really anxious can get it from CTAN and provide feedback. The task of installing it should weed out anyone who isn't capable of understanding what they are doing :). Finally, we could/should also advertise the heck out of it. E.g., perhaps your post could be turned into an item for TUGboat, or maybe it's just a latex2e news installment. Whatever. Then we can print it in the upcoming TUGboat, which should reach members right around the time we are freezing TL and deploying the new stuff. Thanks, Karl