Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-2ubuntu2.1) with ESMTP id t1RGNBWo022483 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:23:12 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx010) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0Lmvl6-1XqvLh2sii-00h9FK for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:23:05 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RGLf2D016947 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:21:41 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RCTqju031262; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:21:41 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11868680 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:21:41 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1RGLe7M024626 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:21:40 +0100 Received: from smtp3.easily.co.uk (smtp3.easily.co.uk [91.194.151.18]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t1RGLZbe014303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:21:38 +0100 Received: from [139.222.112.180] (port=57795 helo=[139.222.112.180]) by smtp3.easily.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1YRNfT-0001pH-Dq for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:21:35 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <54F083C0.2020702@morningstar2.co.uk> <54F08FA9.1000300@telecom-bretagne.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-ID: <54F0998F.1060303@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:21:35 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: LaTeX2e Update 2015 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <54F08FA9.1000300@telecom-bretagne.eu> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id t1RGLf2D016947 Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:yXHugqdnEkE=:r7e+h+k/7u/DxQWV0f0s4A23y3 WB+qkx30h1VvYsdT6/UYOcmqeFc4M2Q3By4gEEr1N/M0YKy3XN9Ftp6NN2nHPYFDSANGeMM+P N+cl0KrBrF9hKcglNLgnqFNWWZitNn+0C36IJrebtJzENc8jHcLvgrM3qBYMDKQ0l2z5zFrCd 2w9Gbl/58RKuoQnbXkmR9ygViBu36XqZfsqVddg/C1kKk+6QrnVeE9uB8yQ483CtpEtHe/OHj naPawAQiw9n9h5y9NnIl2Mo0F+YqCaCiNgNKftb2r171CQUiq9/Sj9+EJDl61t3riwe67CeOo /0pxI7JxDjrHTLhokSHJxSSIIOWerE8igB/kL8gGKypVv0FA5E6sYkhI2m5aOBCqVgI7hv8XC MxRcAfQJHxh84G7MEj8XeagOHnU17CIwVOLDdi+oM1QQfA1WLETGIKLhnxI6KCyJorFZQCoee IG6ly/fusA824PmRGSfQqfKjNevrTFQwPq4ooweSc0k3URsBW1Xzx9nJFziCfXBJzy/LIgXbi Rq5yAsAFCG3VaRdF6Ca7LEXlEiz5QAnR1XjFxwWsGFWDO6IGNamsnsq2ZZrxzTEyq9aSoV/S5 HhVm3dz1+7rE7Ofu88lU4ir76BKkeEQbAM7+Iy92hsNYl2a9CCz4TFXjkEgD2fVYVFxlm9/nv nPreiDouK7yqGfKEslzLqU8gX63JAlJQCZBJZb4qB/LfxiwM+osgevL0je+p85c4JLBpz0Tcx SUQfUYponYBKsu8S65uZ4ejvRdG0/lHQW25mPxGuTICZOAB689Nk6f1/hGh9SCVat327qZVEA rqHkpQUSC2ovyFrGPPVXclesDUpFs1B6tx0GIg1uq8CJ1KF9eIx33DLDjT6zqQx+YtiTPOeUs 8ESMtlOuGP4thNTH3ULk7XEUFHQc/jQrqNxY3Mfbq7QiFoxwXemru2O6yLAGTs7eJ2ZQMo3TB eKvQJbaj64jrhIxJXVfIQ1Pvy1S6QUVT1tHCm9vIT1RBaUAsBZgqIT16tF9I0WBWfC8H1NL0B Eoowx23hCk/rgrhBf09xri6gqqVX6G60583jT8sGrd6+B4HJ8XEQNAg9RZCjyL4E8ISk5MuUX UTrZxlz6W2YUb+GYRh/Cbeq1Ofbj4uCgSnTVYdQdwVC3fpQvZQJRSAzWvBChr7rbcw9R8Nqv8 VjBLVxMWX6cnVf9g6PjO8VEqjffdzk7njVt2gsZdXi3r4yRR/ksXIMvMCyZ6kY4oUTN8DEOvZ WWvXOzGEuTXZt/avkkSrCnF9k5tHIRqTc4MmVb1/nXrwQS5Pagzhbdz/WixOgovpGSAx3GLQg N3eXJb7MnXnQwNMTcbR1B0XoRz+aO19mPxlouWuM4HaAbwDZEK2tdH66ZZfc+yASFgdaSGwxw 4NGLiu2reWmIbVYjr41PjtOzKxSkCmM/RwPZvWeVyuTt5pwcVIzm2y7nww9IZ456nGHaF/vec tKPu/ZuhNCJQcoEmAGxnHT4ibNBSgK7O1ufaW0EAd1xj2sZx6Tiuns3gsb5vsS0iSPf2va9w= = X-UI-Loop:V01:3svSzZ4bN60=:C8UMlUfFI0OcFTwUrwFO3TFePK+/DAb4VkE5bHlFQ5Q= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 85.214.41.38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by h1439878.stratoserver.net id t1RGNBWo022483 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7651 On 27/02/2015 15:39, Élie Roux wrote: > Dear All, > > Thank you very much for this update! > >> We have not at this stage addressed >> attributes, callbacks or other areas that need new allocators. We hope >> that over the coming months interested parties will work with us to >> develop a coherent scheme in this area to be added to a future LaTeX2e >> release. > > I'd be more than happy to! It might end the weird situation we have now > where 'luatexbase' and 'luatex' have conflicting allocators. Tell me > when you're ready to work on this. Indeed: that is the thinking. In contrast to the situation with \newXeTeXintercharclass, there is not currently anything in the .ini files for the LuaTeX-specific allocators. We therefore felt it was too much to do in one release to address this as there needs to be some discussion first and very likely careful timing with the LuaTeX package-development community. We are very mindful of the current 'luatexbase'/'luatex' situation, hence wanting to be sure we get agreement on the required approaches. At the moment the focus needs to be on the current update. Once that is settled and shipped to CTAN I'll start a new thread here asking for thoughts on the LuaTeX allocator situation. Probably a lot of the code is essentially written already, so what will be important is an idea of what is needed in the format. -- Joseph Wright