Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id s82A74q2014604 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:07:05 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx008) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0MKckB-1XNvVd208d-0021bz for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:06:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s82A4FgN015562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:04:15 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s829JsjP006448; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:04:14 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11299558 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:04:14 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s82A4EOU014498 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:04:14 +0200 Received: from mail-oi0-f49.google.com (mail-oi0-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s82A3xbS009064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:04:02 +0200 Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id g201so4241539oib.22 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.114.169 with SMTP id jh9mr30714874obb.25.1409652238981; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.7.176 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 03:03:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <54033B96.8070007@morningstar2.co.uk> <54037E00.9050005@latex-project.org> <54057A1B.4040605@latex-project.org> <54058E3F.7010605@latex-project.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:03:38 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Michiel Helvensteijn Subject: Re: How to get l3str.sty, l3seq.sty, etc. these days? To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <54058E3F.7010605@latex-project.org> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Q4NPcFaCmgk=:YT8qnUFeWI4tktWJ1a4EQoedV+ qz7J8bFOcExGjpYsF7kyG4J26LEThFptqGJyqpMYJzfmJFHc8UBSC8eu2V8ziZGhhLSomxrQv G50B3kWDJhFvewtnd4mTXm7/szNCD8plSf4yXikWA+5YaoNddjhdwh32y7sfy6i3i2C2Emk3e +FJdbLa6TvStmOMU86X4NWpv7pjtNqjAHlArjUXcSImJJh+WE8VOY0Uj8ignd6yTUoi3/uoJM wS4WKEXUebGRKb+1RXdlMkrNiAMayvR+pcNckPS9aHEsHD+DPv5G79Zk04p4UyS4V+iGhGg7a LPKABJrmwdFKvbmhKSAWShhg1x9iUx4x4Mrhn9OXzNL813WqSBhVPZl9J4M5rFVqx5233jLvA vdOimv+lX+eSt8Z99VGpkg96paBzH0C0EurctbV7EW7KhsM8uynvuNdiDS3dHx2TowMOz/0k5 oFdSaJdkhLXHLj6NZXe27Z0vmvPkJmGGtkGRrdGffygTpkfrdMZztxeZ/UDSBQc/64qUiXepI Esi5Lo4RAU4DCXYIoCRNuGvVF+h0Ih2RDxPUOrMzAUeWDasEAYBUdNoF0zNYKrfxDtbjxGL7K 9lhizSQePEsGqwl9ZpAo+sNjyPDB7WfOPNbIz2zrhOIRnNk4w4ECor2EU0I5FyXusvHWCJSbo bsy8wz7MAYf7naQ3QBzBUbtKhUw7NIfHsT7ErmGEhYs3RYb1AK/LCrXs18QmlZBJ75Rh4xNCz /6kCZrPsP3yHYlIhuLUZaYnIm47l2FEoAas2n/llcqYj2lS0DbVYk+t6M/7eLlO/KqSX2bo+D 0DgSBPxyrOVxmTzSMBVX71Ce4uz7k7VXosYgzyzI4ODm6oVe/Ss9VnO3Elg3kRFbmMvTnbAvw rekbYvxF+mzd3ynAV5aYQoO/YguY0bxELhE5SFd59NI7UGrK4TbiruPA+BAn3AFxiZdqyvFZ9 eJHG3tdgPexNNRiQ8fUlkXUt91LK22Zki2mYdCNV9rLpRB7E0vHnCpglKDHwTbRA+XfzTYtyb 1v+t9dHD7FG/5wP3MfSdw+r1oeQiDq2bDtuXFDCKYbeyDZDXKZ+5EkoBtNRcgrEDLC9jqumzn 9QjoLVt9PAncnQ4JTXG28VkpcRkQFvfzK6jQllc2hl+5ekfezrBLIEFo+rE6kxOoqpqrHiZZU B2oUzI+x5ghHwovWp+QHjqhLv39BAdC9fQrAiFLOtAV8E+eBSuCBFdL5/04dlBAO+/HhE/Mdk +3wKkprdMzkAeVfH7L95pO/2DX5rv1kNt+vTF/ZoFpOHGRpT1TSsgtDJaf0HcpwLG9fzRkfPa lvW5hVfL8rkXYI8QJ0EArZFLUKDjgD5+sg5eBb+n8pYw4UBxdqgvj9my7p4ZatPcj8+iv3sJL TNKZFUdtcJ4aHq7l7CqSOidSouLnT1A5HcmCnVBIfzTqJsFk7ow/uWCJGlrse2HhlTEzCBqJs 8HLkQNr2UbQGbWUd9S451OHdzvKzR0Q3zL9moNGuwBkKg7Sh3193rEbaIDh1n2KhqkX2IpSg= = X-UI-Loop:V01:ZKAkeieNkhk=:k/ZHJ73H9WOc2Fom7F+VQqAfzY3i+MjfYQbG/DXWu54= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7589 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Mittelbach, Frank wrote: >> Even an error message that explains the situation would be preferable >> to the standard "File `l3prop.sty' not found" error. > > ok that's probably better than a warning. Error and explaining what to > change, followed by loading expl3 so that the document can continue That seems sensible. Users have probably (and justifiably) become desensitized to console-warnings. -- www.mhelvens.net