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To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:LStZ72wPQl8=:P+Pts8AExRZuPTTcVfaOpZCGHQ UBljUfr6tdJEYFAvL+4A9DIpthagmuSE+O9GnbY5y6INurWCD/8I+DPfLRrjSVJyj4eOujbaZ VKQ5InbcJPtdMBLwoG3MLvxxog3v6n+aIW0qtbu0HWPZhrsQ7S7K/kgJLi0mi2lj2rJ5cPeWJ ie75PWsUWKbhrWk2zrSKfEH8gcF385Sq9tQvEBnb6VJHKf7M655U+VEEDmhH7SNNPQzIWaaF8 7dOjmZWAvOu4RbxdCnUCa/0qquludSPT85/d5G+7WIvTSKq3VxmJDQXQ2mZ5B+4mq881q8Yx7 F3752//B9jbb5SQ43uwpR8grZZDEpQ+7BEo59G8zLmfXGGHx1iSTpEVJ2HD+KJlO4Ydr20FnR HWhm/BG/Wgejc8McYErCkECZxQwt47QvTqXVo1o0p6ul+7oi00ckswdAZ/PC9jNh5fIneBeLB 6JtWRP8UCEBB7/N8bcvtFdt3TAjDaJDzesAMtktiqHGlJQWNs3I1WdMCm05Xg6+W5j/tEMe1l Wu/Xhp0PenjoS7M3k4OQ330JOW8JpZ3uB1SiepPygQ56t0nXzTebUT7F7AV6mhVA0VVPNgZ1b 7WBNwjVaFXyReiitrynihkmAVF5O1G1z2B4SizTpU83WmqdVvEmE1siC0qMZISBcDMnZOXffj 3bcmw9aLkem0whxZ0ft+8Gn7U+ZLrR9+1Hfc5Q6QTuyFvJuBdXPawGCAa1SVjk6bTZMD/0CFF 2xdfnWGWPPYEFeiopxdb6oGOy95evrd7ZsnCCnIQNy0g/przyv6cGzmwdfrQOLgf+cyHTH1r8 auFh+515LB2im/fkL3ivI9SNp6V4gwIpiLOHfTYJ+f6zA6dG4vkG5B2xl+chvcCQr1EI4wSRM IdxxcwKaIKsudaKToELKKCgJTuDnScnPb1TwdpsyArQp8ma0wGV5FzJp9Zc4WPZSNCSkbkQZc Khq5NOZBQ1VCGMy+c/jJMV2FWQ2/8/NMm9OsoEOpNUAuqYlQYWi5F6B4Y4a8S0MEefiAr218O 5H75LMiGQaEPrUp+pxQPqBjHW0FxjqEHwnriG8FQHOVpZvGsm7mYQGHor0DjiMLuliGVNB/ST E1VHfWh2N88VSIG52nVhxm3y1Q8XiEmSLp7xXlxdo4qmP4h8zSKA25PkjpXxkAItr20Q6l/dh kUVWnZhuT863zSnfSDj0AluF8q6dg4+x81a6Nu7/eMLhnREYtjotJAGw9o9DgqgXeEysdrXYz LLl8vZxdSD2fR0j5EKbhbzZXgst+eHYU3zwO5k3J1nAZcYXERgE+5+8SnvOqKd26rQQS03Ziw CZC4ul4ffggA418F4qh+XxPCad/G8ywgH2Fr5s7n/9kln+VeNP5ndFoXe/d7AILH4zdSa+dG8 /G49oqhibDKIGIKIJCJjn1T8MJCfr1UrdOddgxH5y4lirRiKGUTGSr7Mf5n9Vuer813MZcGjs /wbPzsoA5y4j2uzTdrItQe7OTOn1i6v3qqhisjzSGmtPz3bzFjQuMuiuNp6nW+Aj2FR8KIWw= = X-UI-Loop:V01:GTsr/5cd9YA=:n4QhlForpGBff/20+duFxjCY/7Fb6wtG7fFNvleNiIY= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7586 On 31.08.2014 22:09, Michiel Helvensteijn wrote: >> So I guess you have to bite the bullet and remove the calls to >> individual files as it really don't make any sense to provide empty >> .sty files just to support the above scenario > > Hm.. I didn't even think of that. But actually, it makes perfect > sense. Have those files do nothing but print a deprecation warning. > Keep them around for a year, and maybe then remove them. perhaps we should do that. On the other hand if it is just a warning in the log then chances are we will be in the same boat next year. Still ... > > I will fix my own packages now, of course. But can you be sure I am > the only one to have made this mistake? no, but you are so far the only person who raised the point - whatever this proves :-) Guess it is easy enough to provide semi empty .sty files with a warning so I guess we should probably follow your suggestion frank