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Received-SPF: None (: nag.co.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-OriginatorOrg: nag.co.uk X-Spam-Check-Skipped: Loadavg 12.49 Message-ID: <538DBBC9.9010905@nag.co.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:12:57 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: David Carlisle Subject: Re: 'Preseting' keys To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <538D8F99.3010400@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:c6EwpHuxWSs=:BRo2/8e1W3hsIVNi55G+pfJZBV XvIdnjOhT9Y96qPa4TkV02GO+IZbKTOpJ2Z0or1QnjLgELCjEGntCRb+CGdOp3EJijjQIoSpc 8oWWVhve74zxJsviIoqOUafqKVY4HLnEOMFPC79pCIvG9FPZV9zrtL1F8x6CzC6gqzqQagWY7 KG+OeqWjabtMuE9wOVinRbN/AtM+vrUA4tNzdJJeiv6DozWwcfboOfuxDePQ9rLWCRESG3pQF uUAHqxQZPgr3tgL8wYeAgVEcHI8UtYq4qeSYpJf8FVD0NYTKccvNRQqD/r65dYJckxuxnwQqV IPo8JlbQCIZqO3y594fkspyhQX/w7IzRAbknfELrkCvpkf5fGdSDXtuYUj238c7lx1pMNwCm1 qowsEoGSn7v7FRYBLCzOPauR2PTPUgImvHyTbU4/3/7lRTwbpwluGtxILewMe75jJ1Mq1UKVZ yxtj1+Xf327UeK01bslTtblz0ke8McJ3jIIPvSVKkfyEUSRXwAPwbcFfgMIqRWoFMJvdfSoYz E+k2/w3NNLcrwJFBuaF3xs+Weq1SVGuAG7JwY4vzQVi3AfnhCh54m7qFpw8Ft6NZ7yn8S+4/h DEOSG/kgNg0DL+XQO5MzxGlGgiVCUPDbsxzGfZxRR6s9cAWwQarNaDsJdzOmQDeLSlwh4coK+ GA20J/XOlp1dD/sL3YlaRn7jYe7znDH8f/9iNBcF9tLX3E+qtGm2RKKRgdFZLZIskLT4Fkf81 NRGRR/tN6RNq1loV4t56yrMEj++/Nvk/YHEWhtP2yYEyfH1EfSz1krxVUMyTEv+3ciiA41VUQ 2Oh9ieypE1C/7On0gSQ8+VR09/MbJuEG+jnkkmbDcjHwcDDUYUY4Ck2Shy8/IMNQGwJaGDF/x YSPoDHdo1hrMQVXDr4ibzKydpzq1G2aGOB3ZHOkcNA8e40Yh7lOOF0tXNwg+OrvQok7uj5IwQ lJ4LfeSDHnqMc0lHZgZYpsnk/+ui9y628+pIU6he5Icp9HA7xpt1Yp/qTze28hxJG6fw/RdmO D4XRMqth/ujQbne3kHhEA4cYAZcFxXRmc+CwdQLivS4h1haWWCOKUqVzwzJXNKsRW3PDUeZDG EfQzprWHKPgxY8ixK8ZZADNTVRgtsjoX9CWdfrgN/olt5eeMv/Ioq9DIyk3bP9H9OJu24tCpA 5iWTzGTnyEiTTKoUhvy+Fn15QQwzEUefm7RQp28J6MemLojH5M3HoMtyywAdE6wwsPkOWANum WpdnPeM7A6HzIReDy1i24CaD07nnh7VxxkNZr8rgoGwuQ+SaVSCwW2/xBc+3qOL/QUCFFcZRJ WgGQIr5EgK7ZGJA8S0w63YPAi3/AA+eSzklGg2FKezJZEn8b96lZ7m1/RpSZAj2og1V7pmMev /oOKM23a04XTfsC9HsjVM/PRbB5mXZ3vZkufFUEeq99aTFd4ZyD6C1NTfFvZIFrbuG6a0AKQC te+GuwJEFng/NEIhmh5T+QU9dso4jy00pWAvvO7qzMySpvHXSDYZZQxW87anbImHhZI2M2OYj ylhD6OLTdunOPbm9khL3LeixgutGi7zOtgFtmX5VI X-UI-Loop:V01:hQuFQ3HuheU=:7vq6o7r8Xx1OmknA0vbxvK6Od6M2P0zMe1uU+pBJI0E= Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7485 On 03/06/2014 10:04, Joseph Wright wrote: > I can see how one might set up a 'preset if not already set' approach, > but I'm not sure how it's different from simply starting off with a > default. yes true but probably in the usual case where each key setting happens in a local group, and only happens once in that group then any kind of presetting is probably equivalent to just setting the defaults initially at the outer level. (Apart from side effects like writing to log, or global increments that expose the order or number of times, the key has been set) David