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From: David Carlisle <davidc@NAG.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: New fix-cm contains a fix for floats
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hmm  we did check that the fixltx2e change didn't break float's H if the 
packages are
loaded in the expected order (fixltx2e first). I'm not sure it can 
really do anything sensible
if loaded after other packages have redefined latex internals.

Even if it detected the situation  there's not much it could do other 
than not
make the definition. In general I'd say it can't detect arbitrary 
packages making arbitrary
changes although in this case, perhaps it could make an exception as the 
main error
case it is detecting is using [H] without loading float (which 
previously took the float
  to the end of document with no warning) although probably a better fix 
would be for
  float to delay its definition to begin document

David