Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id s4LCWPc0002058 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:32:27 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx004) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0MPrLG-1WjE4P2edG-0053id for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:32:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4LCTjKv023424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 May 2014 14:29:45 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4LAPnpB007331; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:29:45 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11059689 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:29:44 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4LCTiY9027693 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:29:44 +0200 Received: from mail.ams.org (mail.ams.org [130.44.10.30]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4LCTaSG023314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 14:29:39 +0200 References: <537B6C0E.4@nag.co.uk> <8919C598-7CF7-4AFB-A231-0B6D1C4D4495@yahoo.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:29:29 -0400 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Barbara Beeton Subject: Re: Unicode math To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <8919C598-7CF7-4AFB-A231-0B6D1C4D4495@yahoo.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:s43+onOa/Ik=:dsSq4hNfgcLeEouvPDrtlHMmna i8PeDhlfUtx2QOM/VMRAaSKTchWNC98XJzPbl+V6i3EkcoLggMKmqFTQSpoi1agS2CmHwvwzB flXxoVwNB6aWYxh4QME76CG00/h8IH1CbNyTE1NMd1F6HbjRqirZvPCJuYcI1ZKhS7t/93iey GYhcDWcx6GU8uhgp59jZXnUeUrj4PpXdhs0b/DT2csAko3tTUZHpBSuxurg+jika/S97X+ZFX Acl/og06YC6ikPyfjRPeMvqegmPA41i5yNho5an/YH7FQ1uT+iMKDjQrNySZqp/4GKt+xUgpf QgKzp+mvak2C5cOYwjGxgI0e+jyNbzr68XvYByAqi5h6qzvdZ7oyq3ldpVffpCtpZUHv1uF7g IzWym9ifqxzzCi3U8yKdurNfmH73wHDejNkdC9TBu4UIqy8Ede4LUadD4TniKzH8o4XnHIeLB QqfeP/YdRmVkCEIJ9otbnsM0ju6FcFX8oDi/r4Mj+1moIHJOVTgcMb+DHgJf3Bu9fidHQ9E4G Ym9xEbFtwL4Z9ILogkq5Ym+nJjN0NKSSbTMS4RfywnpeXH3wZh+CDsdvObYNWfHzJIGYDNqHh 5ZeomrbLd6rpRgH2G2EZndqOmAN08o6FmLX2tznLW7grnAblFBIdNGLDy79R/Ycz5WcYYKY1u HBwCB9O8BvcvsG3u/+9opiX1YKZMg0qpDPGBkmAadleMlCRsC+jW0UZJ5QX+BsMWYuBYcaX5V 16eqCOL4R7/RtP52fgxBHh9NnMQkScucMQ6N12IJwqKSXtogvniOIJOZdbgVU5kqyMNoXFSDS DfyRVLtdNM5i9YuuAJCbPKKLeFuKnA4uvQwBei8oJ2DaggbYZomnXYZ/9q4tGz5yWExRF/W83 BiOmJhb6G/SD41k2PEJrImeCOHLAffYmLjqh7Q+BEXgFDYooECpOPsvkW7BvijLQZ2B6Iv99E 09v1pl/cZw7+qPNf4wq+gNjPtCflY7+TTRG7I4QFmrZpjLXgUsz13a/0S+eOrjkf2Wr478m9E Douge2IkApqjEC01sffbeX0Zfy+Av+h2nLLTfQlvZpcbnoLOXZKBmJglh2a6478wOlzKG0Drw Vz8iElfWTh9gkAv1WWAnDwRZBXoANL2eu3/j5/AqMe/SBEk3a/v8WCjG99SvdpZhpxkN1Bnld rpC/+ynoeBzO5N+X2C4UH0GUtYVCNGaMBKLzg8ZG4FPHRkCdnjtRT66YVzs4OSXfOJ4kbg0Tc nR41bGoUkw04YGunDsyE5kE9D43Giiuc0ntX3hS/ofhxlVfuTfHoQwRKVAP3JZojB247joF0U UUv3cZxCeBQ5FtTtIDJF8/vXDCp3TDWQGABrFCW82YeagJvf/859z9bikNCYo8VH0EGq0/14G vB2gmSwmDCpEpQ6ZNzOD0A/3T0bsBYxkFtkAlJcLAR6HFkklaG9K2COtfsSArhRQvoH/B7x56 MXNHB7pcGxdeaNEgjFBkfYG+Zw5VDqu3SgBXUgFE3Oht19jChggDru0aOLgL5s1lpOFlNI3vW lvFTdTswm3/EkQMtcRH1VKwQ3iny+7e7Q2rLLyDD3 X-UI-Loop:V01:mcqVBgdVBC0=:bHPb1pini2yn0ETknfoSXIX+m83hxgk6uvddYNmFo/c= Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7433 On Tue, 20 May 2014, Chris Rowley wrote: [...] But we may need to distinguish operators from variables. The variable case would include the case of 'variable names' that include spaces (I find it difficult to imagine an operator name with spaces but who knows?) counter-examples from the texbook: \liminf (lim\,inf) and \limsup (lim\,sup). [...] PS: the term 'identifier' is not, at least not until quite recently, ever used by math folk. not until some of us had to get into the font business. sorry 'bout that. -- bb