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I=92m replying out of order, but I=92m still inclined to agree with you h= ere :) The big problem was not handling \mathit properly. > I wouldn't like to loose this completly. If \mathbf > pointed to a textfont then everyone who wants the real math symbols > would have to replace \mathbf in their code by \symbf. And back > again if he wants to use a text font.=20 >=20 > Wouldn't it be possible to have a "\usetextfontasmathbf..." command > which disables the mapping to the math plane? So that one doesn't > have to switch between \symbf and \mathbf depending on the font > setup of a document? It has been possible for a long time to select a text font for a math alp= habet in unicode-math, but this feature was probably not documented very = well. If you try to select a particular unicode range such as \mathbfup and a f= ont simply doesn=92t have it (well, it only checks =93A=94 I think), the = remapping doesn=92t occur and you get the ascii-range glyphs: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{unicode-math} \setmainfont{texgyretermes-regular.otf} \setmathfont[range=3D\mathbfup]{texgyreheros-bold.otf} \begin{document} text \textbf{bold} \[ m+a+t+h \quad \mathbf{b+o+l+d} \] \end{document} BUT this doesn=92t work properly with \mathit, because unicode-math hasn=92= t distinguished =93math alphabetic symbols=94 from =93math text font=94. Cheers, Will