Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id s4L53YCx032399 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:03:35 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx002) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0McEtD-1WVAqm34gZ-00JduF for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:03:28 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4L50tE3018483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 May 2014 07:00:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4L40001010002; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:00:54 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 11038033 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:00:54 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s4L50sfp022638 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:00:54 +0200 Received: from mail-qg0-f50.google.com (mail-qg0-f50.google.com [209.85.192.50]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s4L50eB8012646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 07:00:43 +0200 Received: by mail-qg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id z60so2400384qgd.9 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 22:00:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.21.239 with SMTP id 102mr25581163qgl.31.1400648439938; Tue, 20 May 2014 22:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.171.137 with HTTP; Tue, 20 May 2014 22:00:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <537B6C0E.4@nag.co.uk> <8919C598-7CF7-4AFB-A231-0B6D1C4D4495@yahoo.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1190eb7c7fc04f9e1e0c6 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 22:00:39 -0700 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: William F Hammond Subject: Re: Unicode math To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <8919C598-7CF7-4AFB-A231-0B6D1C4D4495@yahoo.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:I5AlAAKAoYE=:ol9i01PlO2ZKIollYX4kyMLf+m 9yuk8SLHHRslj7XExPKXc+jLYu9edQfubFQ0JY9eganh2DSa/xCylsLHjKlFIV5QDp/vlDQAT l9T9hwUfq3E++FsJaJMbAIZekwJRQ6h27tsQKC0d8Vyl9+gIvvuwQBmx2NXr1SiURLLQvPVZV qFP3cG4xEd8OUD6a5pBOvZaYbBqGxvc9SJuUTsWnQvpErMH6aGNI8/HTyUxVlyifGF1uXB8MA 0DCFRGAuwDPjpgnUZ+mwZpfRFkC2UyucWnaHuwB+UHdUO1ZhK944o7M5yw0Fw7fdG0BBMegnJ pC8SAIh3viUJvrplwWH4OiIxrrVfwCC5S6r5laeH8ts/DZegl1TbRaTrSTQiXPfTN72Jzy0Fv czfOY/2Id90dLdYLVyD6iUGu9GBsecwf50n+72hep7MB4Dl2U58fVYwuFQuTun0pm5tGhFihd qx3b2wJawfkVCZPW8YJhbVUv8sNAzabczTKIzF0dQcG2hl8GJoXPWx0W94yEzNDawwCZ5kL4g njSBsF7OwWNqjKVgSYeb3N7mtioNKA43ZdgJLr99P5kpQZeGHRKusWcvXymj5KDaGoUfvXlIr 40NfIoXZYEWpldo4+5zmw1KOFMirmWMQkpxzC/9XkzpSGIqV9DOKG1tZ6XdNN6Yp617dQiPPX h+zDEqnbrHqkKEWZcKD9qvtg/G1dSYDsmFOjJqUoQIqKpGr8QGkgRaTHpszwwYofyoYqdbljX kzR4fo3t4hijhFxj0L4nuKEs+Hk6Gy5Bf8WddiHx1+rlkp2qT1bqv1Y14v9F+hNn5djhqgYNG F2Mmkxktn5Bwko555d2WnU1CPqeU6wF6T0N+RtgDqyD3cZz0g/YZaxkfPSHSv7cf5M9EDbyH5 sXc/+87k7M01Yms4N4ER4FG0Sb89P0E6fjUJ9uwyVDhfnVUyxFYBUaiT1QAu4gShq+VxoYKLk YRbesxwzR9TyTPds0ITi2hM30Fj3b0x45k5GPcasIqL6VJEmt38lAG/WA3TxTOxv+PJ6oAbc9 Y22eT3w8nCCdbbIgl6XNHKgRoHle7IElPSEbdrMs+dI8XSGZjZtKW52lCONl2V4uiwoTbW6cj DNIWSAQYwfQtOF5dqWWpEfHXJiT4RYTHsJw/8ihjhuQO7YhnZ32yICnci0KrGk1IN1iH9oB8d fa1lB51/1RLkSqVfh5X05jK1bHea6uTOJL66z1tUnlV4uiKFcHEEFncM2PM0zSlI4CMAPB9+f UBVpGnb/Vfp3FxBUgXzwyvUBiBmc0ZYKu8+IS+GA3Ym5kaasV4EeQMHBtO0cSWaj23CKd5I8U baUivHXLq8sW0LPQMAScXvqN1vAnv/fmNRCEpEqE5OdGWd/QmVuStJn2iduZDxPRd0DQDuYr6 j+hhnTHU5uPICS7LBC5XUp2MthOABMQFabZNqvznS8oYGucAS1MoIA9/8fAeGeo7Riwov3vVf qzpkdwzBsVcx1j3H2QdP4mzs00wtJ/xb2sSWTQACRFdx7O4S5CGEuLX5aq8ul88hYn/BTn0Nt tHoQW8xinVKXGtW73+q353+tWj7dz6UtICUPfFzpX X-UI-Loop:V01:TsQc8RVS2FE=:h8/6/db8HmEN30U4lL/r2Z8CKL7Wj6UzyS1R5ip4jdc= Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7427 --001a11c1190eb7c7fc04f9e1e0c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Chris Rowley wrote: But more simply, I think of them as something like: > > \mathoperator {\mathtext {\textbf {Var}}} > Yes. Also when Var is 'R', I often prefer this to \mathbb{R} as an 'indicator' for the field of real numbers. Yes, the word 'indicator' seems to have first appeared chez MathML or perhaps chez OpenMath [it can be hard to tell the difference :-) ] I think the MathML distinction between 'indicator' and 'operator' has no precise analogue in LaTeX. Mathematically, in light of what the category theorists have shown us, particularly as applied, for example, to what is called the "functor of points" in algebraic geometry, one can think of almost everything as a categorical "arrow". To make this mundane, if x is in n-dimensional space and f a map defined there, the notation fx [ or f(x) ] can be regarded as a composition of arrows whether x is static or whether it depends on some parameter t since a static x, i.e., a point, may be canonically identified with the map from the one-point space to n-dimensional space taking x as its value and likewise for f(x). (To get mathematical semantics out of this one just needs to understand the "type" of each symbol.) -- Bill -- William F Hammond Email: gellmu@gmail.com https://www.facebook.com/william.f.hammond http://www.albany.edu/~hammond/ --001a11c1190eb7c7fc04f9e1e0c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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