Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id s3UNXYOP002441 for ; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:33:35 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx105) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0LphSU-1XKmJr1ZKw-00fO9b for ; Thu, 01 May 2014 01:33:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s3UNUe1p026853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 May 2014 01:30:40 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s3UM13Zk023596; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:30:39 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 10865047 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:30:39 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s3UNUd37029799 for ; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:30:39 +0200 Received: from freefriends.org (frenzy.freefriends.org [66.54.153.139]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s3UNTV94015459 for ; Thu, 1 May 2014 01:29:43 +0200 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s3UNTUlB005647 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:29:30 -0600 Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/submit) id s3UNTUix005646; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:29:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <8638guz99h.fsf@frenzy.freefriends.org> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:29:30 -0600 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Karl Berry Subject: Re: preview of latex2e 2014 release To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <53616EC3.1010308@nag.co.uk> (message from David Carlisle on Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:44:35 +0100) Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3mXPQwdnKlA=:yKfrJJfM/Kjiuib4h90SUZFrd4 rgYvejG4+XVJWmJsGFBFJ23rMc5Dm3CI/1OokWKzSt3Duwj0OMICu5l69YQuda0YqBbttAyu6 Wr8aPccLgCtcHYul8I0c5MV1wuIa3JMf5tWZkHd4c1DCbQJ01jFBKyB3bHj8KHBqOFCayEtID VAajBEgdX7I8dEB8BbE+4ydGZhO1+9BPSN8rsUtQW0SanARDJtRs/8bCYcwlZBgEg0/wMes1C Nu0qJADJl+0gGCV1K3w0iNsRB9oKRUKoqls/L3TlC2lXiajNdeN2ZVs/xHgTFt6qHd8CHZ6HV dDK7p03+AmEHf64XOAz3qhQRVEdoVyenW4Gz7/KoBQNq+rDNayq53ud0e3bSoNoNy2t5zDfVq oPfnFdrpcDa7CAv9XjaHxqWvvTN7sYGhqOC0ewRkvQHZ8xbj1G/Yn8bccrVao6Xnd8c2VDBJq c6wYlcl8ybkFPZ5WQIsEA0ow61oJKq/r6BDVieUcLCpdaPjOtmaDaO9MUHFBCAW3g4H2TMN89 iITKU+BBAUjKvF+JqYY+rwRqo4W7WoKlKznLQmE6+FCzg+E1K61jp0QwvR+VOrj+pKqQNYZWX Nw3MUaO+YGi1ZJ3ghbsKAhkf2NUex6MwhfydFzuDiVDDqo4vrD4CeSayX5mB2Ne18JDkouimN DD8lwe2nRWDlGpWfSyZ+mCPH7Tj2SHXIC6UNWxU09IYrl1yScDDOqCpQjYms/iejwH3UbdDtS BcjD5FJSL4lzYHtYp+soNVc2O5vmA6xQ5bkw0c9TTgTi36YeJaukJozErbEc7JFurTotiCoIC lBuyS93gGNMvQWENVOeaFJYx3pi6v9wa7rum4NRVdqodVb6t9Io7BA4ApabiOj4qpXJ6XBcDh 3JpRlr/AeaT0VVm3TiqLc3x4VVtxH+AYRdJf/yVJCX3OEwdUP4KgMx5TcQUhWjlMxWvQVVqHM mZ8Xk9liQgDRGFGz3DAq0SUrCafBrE/QRszYm0Kh7/jOaC+o5ARwR4+fEwLj7TQMTamkzAoUp av8z3Nv8sMQU4KLbzup1zEYsIh9SjUfAocL6VPSHo26wiFSYgwvmelyStuIK5fnLLxVRvPayZ CS3uJTJmBNPNFtsG7AplCi2AAgDUhDfKdhkmampKaFnzLfv+byRmwDdvdaaLckpOH7UhkQNh7 kxvJXxQnFNVgNYAHi6wqH473zbDgHoEtoInxM77vvGa3rFELuNINrLa0JKNwlNY1j77Qr5Q6C at3IKOahULIeOwFAXIG6Fub/Q69liFIeJB0xS2+OupH54ivtlZ122b/bvg/J+veX4tyJaP21n u6PF8AEzR2Zve7IUM+yfIi4bVeZA9T24gL9e3VZNQ/m0yNKSnYaQzeVpNa0nHKYFL1OF8crA4 XfYqdBjwL9Yag0OF4BA5LGM6cys6uODoQJDYUrAYbW+gLLtNca8mtOvy4BPXRPSBW9mr20FFh tc/VSkRw== X-UI-Loop:V01:fTNCWrEMv3w=:h9zInvkeMLIo/E0jjsgUnzeQhg83WO2ePXlLLzd0aHI= Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7381 The main point of the change is to make \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} _work_ with xetex/lluatex (by doing nothing) I like it. I feel better. Thanks David. k