Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with ESMTP id s2GBTeLj030537 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:29:41 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by mx-ha.gmx.net (mxgmx011) with ESMTPS (Nemesis) id 0MgonQ-1WlEVj0Enw-00M6xt for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:29:35 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2GBObkT006994 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:24:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2FN13mM010348; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:24:36 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 10760142 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:24:36 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2GBOaV2028952 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:24:36 +0100 Received: from smtp2.easily.co.uk (smtp2.easily.co.uk [62.128.146.103]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s2GBOSA4006952 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:24:31 +0100 Received: from [109.146.67.144] (port=59075 helo=palladium.local) by smtp2.easily.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1WP9B6-0005jO-7t for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:24:28 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1394906420.10726.YahooMailNeo@web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <532589EC.6030201@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:24:28 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: Current up-to-date documentation To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <1394906420.10726.YahooMailNeo@web181704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: Envelope-To: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=V3; X-GMX-Antivirus: 0 (no virus found) X-UI-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:YGYJ8XeD4aw=:YY6B9iRK/XoNw9lKgyV7e09PLD Hbt8BaObA3ApbwlmXrc/9tY2ay03fz/UHxNyQ8pH0LSVFqSw/KqhZEfNb9kUukXi9JAgBrpNq QKnNVNl8FL1HJGCw8RKGnasYtYXi84QF3Tx1hU4lCzk3eeQIT7Hdk+51wC04dmUPeMGmw04dl ZfpneLCTlcnne0TS7aTfZLhOuaLrWwq86MoSvD5LLNoKhEuY9vMe9rDT6E8VuUT85Y0Zwh2UA QZ1UYFp13mf1OFjla56lAuVHhEkh4f9PPQ9NB12FL++XdvxlN6mAgY2VYuLtZU4zmV2M1RZlq QCpMl55xge4nfYbEFxekxaaCBbEoisHDQINuv5cIyGDi0XC5Mc6irmnDtUq6UKddAIoKb7Mo2 p9enMHLgRjHQRJqdPmIiJM0b+JXA3/yJn6kXa2+NeIVbhvrO+FmWOCBK+PMcg9H0whUW4UJbS +DsMgOaVpdZUGbzJF/Xe6RIIc+NZxfy77ASIUCNawgtq4woK9UjZ2be62BAXEi4jdYw7NeSo9 /y5v3DGj8ojrGKUR8WMIE/MGAeTNOV53emOYCL607h7XS8M7GD8WzZ9xsYp3pIed5zSKNO9J4 1JQ/u4LwYGg0e1tM1DtxEfzX/XBZRT4slBBGQaM3PWcPAcrC3bPXb20MzA3H8ocDJUmDFxQoF 8mNNQ9kM64vo2c9J75f3k5eWOaiosgJq2KPjewU8IK72J98HW1Lc0LzHbrA68o3tIRFj7Dyfn DvWxzc7FCPMn/m10AxanHMxO6dDMD18HdDj3+Mw/IF9DkhSRSc76l18tr3pCjvGYGSFOznY8G mr/mt6K6aUAPmIHqaK0R9lRoVwVOSVGLWi9lA8AbDO2EIi6rbon2tAjeRk3k7GWyDylUNHJ2o BDjGrmKCPnensyKc6dSZrHhqeOrXBdTmrtfh60zliNlMee9JFS9JWBDH2pVC129IbGPIQ+Q0R LVbrZ7IiLFOfD1bhSj6tHgD8iySmKSGE3eyZb2CyytOJRdaTdK6cXF8NsTuQlnxfENHorxf3E SobHJXeHD5P9MQPFre7MJfrJ0/sOC/L5skC5dkAStaFNEKQvTF9U0vF4I8+pki2njJX2yo+nl pQH8UuO4PyoS6XtFC+dbEYWFQp4x2NjmcntHr6HE9BvIpWKWt+cDm6FT0QiXmVzxXMemT5Gg+ aAfzxMrwTeHI3ywJPBHBNQTd6imZBong31xE/W8CGCxI4t/0pETJC873vJXIhsQhH7qWyfHCp GDISNTY8yeV2bR1/NSKOli3HlwgSPhLjh8NrZul0jUkkxW1HbEEixkicc2clHazyyeCAFj5QA S5WxGZffUAVivHS6BCH0xgR8+VAeTozSZeQKPiuBrI4prDtPdpFzg2LYsjZMcqcm/v2+KMQGN iXjigNoQXyemX26X/UHnH7C5mzsi+NoP8QkR9azsvCfORTfz7ozwT5GBp8AYBBZb8wn68jgj1 VyoMAWyzC/SULVNf6plLKwVhTnkQw= X-UI-Loop:V01:HuXDYTlVrRQ=:1rxDI+kdVh/z6qB3zdQnD3Y+SoZi2vKnzlI+no4lq0A= Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7341 On 15/03/2014 18:00, Paul Thompson wrote: > I have gone to /texlive//Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/latex/l3kernel and grabbed the documents. Is this the most contemporary and current stuff about using the new tools? Are there other documents available? Would someone suggest a reading order to minimize confusion? > > Paul Thompson/Joy Hembel We current distribute (all PDFs) - expl3 - l3style-guide - interface3 - source3 (might currently be missing!) I'd start with expl3: it's an overview of the ideas. The style guide document is as you'd expect a guide to help programmes. The main ref. is interface3: it's not really a guide, more of a reference work. Other than the kernel team, I'd hope no-one really needs to print off and read source3! For learning to use expl3, we currently don't have a 'complete' guide. I've posted a series of articles on my blog that are meant to partially address this: http://www.texdev.net/2014/02/02/programming-latex3-a-summary-so-far/. We (the team) know that there is a book in development as a proper aid to help new expl3 programmers. However, at the moment I don't think there is an ETA on it. -- Joseph Wright