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charset=us-ascii Hi Bill An update: > I believe the answer to the first is "yes". For one thing, I think = the LaTeX being submitted to arXiv (arxiv.org) is improving. I commonly = look at arXiv source and try to run it through tex4ht toward html+mathml = with mathjax. I see success there as a sign of well-structured LaTeX. = But I've not made a systematic investigation on this point. But Bruce and Gabor have. They have worked on the whole arXiv (to = produce, in particular, very information-rich MathML) as part of the = semantic maths project. So they can probably give you lots of useful = data on this and on many other subjects of interest to LATEX-L = discussions. Best, chris --Apple-Mail=_49A0F6F6-FA9E-4812-A93F-A97440C6E535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = Bill

An update:

I believe the answer to the = first is "yes".  For one thing, I think the LaTeX being submitted = to arXiv (arxiv.org) is = improving.  I commonly look at arXiv source and try to run it = through tex4ht toward html+mathml with mathjax.  I see success = there as a sign of well-structured LaTeX.  But I've not made a = systematic investigation on this = point.

But Bruce and = Gabor have.  They have worked on the whole arXiv (to produce, in = particular, very information-rich MathML) as part of the semantic maths = project.  So they can probably give you lots of useful data on this = and on many other subjects of interest to LATEX-L = discussions.

Best,
chris

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