Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id q858tXq7013401 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:55:34 +0200 Received: (qmail 10738 invoked by alias); 5 Sep 2012 08:55:27 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Sep 2012 08:55:27 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx005) with SMTP; 05 Sep 2012 10:55:27 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q858rSZu010318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:53:28 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q858r5BQ016221; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:53:28 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 2747574 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:12:20 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q858CJVT027769 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:12:19 +0200 Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.46]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q858C84D028847 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:12:12 +0200 Received: from mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6039A64265 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:12:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7C6A64094 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:12:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [139.222.114.133] (unknown [139.222.114.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:12:07 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDF-HostID: 8 Message-ID: <50470957.9040100@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 09:12:07 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Deprecated function: \tl_tail:w To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Sender is in whitelist: joseph.wright@MORNINGSTAR2.CO.UK); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4L00VTXC6D4q0N+AH0PUCnBi0P5cROEGjO+pG7NAH/K+tf9SrVFtpLrKONl 2T9EL4W4U4jgzLbnCcGpk1z/zwmKT/K1fv3lD0=V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7146 Hello all, The \tl_tail:w function is deprecated and will be removed from expl3 after 2012-12-31. The background here is that as implemented in the current release, \tl_tail:n will strip the braces in output such as \tl_tail:n { a { b } } but not \tl_tail:n { a { b } { c } } An upcoming CTAN release will fix the behaviour of \tl_tail:n such that braces will never be removed (the 'tail' will be 'what is left after \tl_head:n has acted'). However, this cannot be fixed in \tl_tail:w, and so we are removing it as documented. The recommended replacement is \use_none:n with either inside a \tl_if_blank:nF test or the use of an empty group \use_none:nn { } Also note that \tl_tail:n will prevent expansion of the result inside a x-type expansion \tl_set:Nx { \tl_tail:n { } } and expands correctly inside an f-type expansion \tl_set:Nf { \tl_tail:n { } } and so the functionality of \tl_tail:w is very rarely required. -- Joseph Wright