Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p8LGpkAf029717 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:51:47 +0200 Received: (qmail 16929 invoked by alias); 21 Sep 2011 16:51:41 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Sep 2011 16:51:41 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx032) with SMTP; 21 Sep 2011 18:51:41 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8LGnDA0003687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:49:14 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8LGSBsn023745; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:49:12 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 1625615 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:49:12 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8LGnCSa012716 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:49:12 +0200 Received: from ueamailgate02.uea.ac.uk (ueamailgate02.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.185]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p8LGmwfV004625 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:49:03 +0200 Received: from ueams02.uea.ac.uk (ueams02.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.131]) by ueamailgate02.uea.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8LGmwwF002316 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:48:58 +0100 Received: from [139.222.114.35] by ueams02.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6PxU-0007MG-Pu for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:47:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4E79D279.2050901@morningstar2.co.uk> <4E79E2B7.6080906@residenset.net> <4E79E8C1.8060107@morningstar2.co.uk> <4E79F0F7.7060400@residenset.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN, outgoing) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=139.222.131.131; country=GB; region=I9; city=Norwich; latitude=52.6333; longitude=1.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.6333,1.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: UEA:outgoing (inherits from UEA:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06FzsMWAc - b72ab3f6e5c9 - 20110921 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 139.222.131.185 Message-ID: <4E7A1579.1000009@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:48:57 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: \interlinepenalties To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Sender is in whitelist: joseph.wright@MORNINGSTAR2.CO.UK); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4L00VTXC6D4q0N+AH0PUCnBi0P5cROEGjO+pG7NAH/K+tf9SrVFtpLrKONl 2T9EL4W4U4jgzLbnCcGpk1z/zwmKT/K1fv3lD0=V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6892 On 21/09/2011 17:34, Bruno Le Floch wrote: > Context uses it in \keeplinestogether, but I don't see why they > couldn't have used \clubpenalties instead. I don't understand the > difference between \interlinepenalties and \clubpenalties as described > in etex_man: > > - the ith interline penalty value is used after line i of the paragraph; > - the ith club penalty value is used after line i of a partial paragraph; My reading of this was that the variation comes down to whether there is any display math about, but in such a case I'm doubtful you'd want to 'keep together' in any case. As you say, in most realistic circumstances \clubpenalties seems to be quite usable, as you have to start from line 1 with \interlinepenalties too. -- Joseph Wright