Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p8K40Vx3009548 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:00:32 +0200 Received: (qmail 4662 invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2011 04:00:26 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2011 04:00:26 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx116) with SMTP; 20 Sep 2011 06:00:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8K3wAaK017004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:58:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8JM13wO011920; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:58:10 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 1592852 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:58:10 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8K3wA6p006429 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:58:10 +0200 Received: from mail-yi0-f49.google.com (mail-yi0-f49.google.com [209.85.218.49]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8K3w47a016982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:58:09 +0200 Received: by yic24 with SMTP id 24so98910yic.22 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr231929ybb.199.1316491084256; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from staff-251-226.wireless.adelaide.edu.au (staff-251-226.wireless.adelaide.edu.au. [129.127.251.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s19sm7676135anm.20.2011.09.19.20.58.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) References: <4E6D0C75.6090500@morningstar2.co.uk> <13xqgkr6dq2cr.dlg@nililand.de> <4E778D59.4090105@latex-project.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id p8K3wA6p006430 Message-ID: <49096BC7-82D6-4DC4-841F-6E7AB70A354A@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:27:58 +0930 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: Scratch variables To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4E778D59.4090105@latex-project.org> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (eXpurgate); Detail=5D7Q89H36p70EVnmPwpfx/vijE2cyyBvTpXnM9d4wkiKMMyFIacXOfQXSqRQH9PHPfrMF CkI/XEOIOYBBC8ZIY4sYMf27mywPmwI5+8hBxlOm9kNT1croXDwulk9QjAvEJuqQyhW0n1MynJd3 GJTAoRdNKUUADQHSVG4bvUXcoIlSr2HirIvz6hlzoYvZ2qUZsamBOwHBAs=V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6885 On 20/09/2011, at 4:13 AM, Frank Mittelbach wrote: > I think bottom line we don't really need them any more these days. The only reason why I would keep them is that for fast access to variables when experimenting/developing (without needing to declare something first), but for proper packages it is far better come up with your own private scratch names. I agree with this, but I don't think we should remove anything that's been around for a while now. I suggest removing the just-added clist scratch variables and keeping what remains as they are -- but not adding any others. -- Will