Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p6B78Njl025915 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:08:24 +0200 Received: (qmail 21050 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2011 07:08:18 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2011 07:08:17 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx083) with SMTP; 11 Jul 2011 09:08:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p6B75iI2025244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:05:44 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p6B71oWl023297; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:05:43 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 1433254 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:05:43 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p6B75gJ2007444 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:05:42 +0200 Received: from mail-gy0-f177.google.com (mail-gy0-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p6B75akb029616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:05:41 +0200 Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2096339gyh.22 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.215.14 with SMTP id s14mr3754197agq.203.1310367613206; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [49.186.56.189] ([49.186.56.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm10210358anu.31.2011.07.11.00.00.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:00:11 -0700 (PDT) References: <201107102304.p6AN4TEt019701@freefriends.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:59:44 +1000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: [lltx] issue with unicode-math, spanish and LuaLaTeX To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <201107102304.p6AN4TEt019701@freefriends.org> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (eXpurgate); Detail=5D7Q89H36p6bcXCoXLd2eD4hXfNkt8sSeH0AUtiJz3rkMIMZbkuDBcFR+10LqdU7XWpNP Jeq7rkDl1Oa5FLGMzXRkPXyddzDSYSXBh1QhaYdcfWhbj67pKWhHyYmFouvODmLbHspGh9u/w9Q2 QwTMpdwItos/fjgo/0OwLG6P8yD1ZcK+zz9bU5t/8oF9zRpys9EJ5X63JTmMJtRDwZJoEA79GnHw ZH0V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6794 (Sent from my phone.) On 10/07/2011, at 23:04, Karl Berry wrote: > I can't imagine that rewriting the world is either feasible or > desirable. > Presumably "deprecated" means "if you want new functionality use new > primitives, existing primitives will keep working as they always > have". Sure, but not usefully with Unicode fonts. The best solution we have (taken by polyglossia) is to avoid babel for Unicode use (ie with xelatex or lualatex). Unfortunately polyglossia is xelatex-only at present... W