Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p26DcLST024115 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:38:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 12513 invoked by alias); 6 Mar 2011 13:38:16 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Mar 2011 13:38:15 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx118) with SMTP; 06 Mar 2011 14:38:15 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p26Da9br019576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:36:09 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p25N14B1025519; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:35:59 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 1207225 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:35:59 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p26DZxbg002968 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:35:59 +0100 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with SMTP id p26DZjYR019485 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:35:49 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Mar 2011 13:35:45 -0000 Received: from HSI-KBW-091-089-142-083.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de (EHLO [192.168.0.197]) [91.89.142.83] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 06 Mar 2011 14:35:45 +0100 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18y/V10BFIy9YzDIJ0tND9LyoD/gpG6CUE+wOadML WD2+6CBWW2xWz4 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110301 Lanikai/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB0581ADB0365A0E896AD2C23" Message-ID: <4D738DB1.3020807@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:35:45 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Arno Trautmann Subject: format? To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p7r/chlbP2AFp1PYb4MltGG918w2OQFS7l/UIoBkn8IoY9AhEs891hpaHWz1 KeZK4CWthiO69NrC64P+7ZuG5aU9xHzxM7D4/mTh3Khd9gjsIicjfe1WACCFhcajgzuzng2mqrFv 09xGdKKAf/E3W/jV1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6634 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB0581ADB0365A0E896AD2C23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I guess this question is raised from time to time =E2=80=93 now I am aski= ng ;) As far as I understand, there is still no own LaTeX3 format because the code just is not ready. But expl3 is more or less stable and some important packages (e.g. fontspec) make heavy use of it causing many people to load expl3 at the beginning of their document. As this is somewhat time-consuming, Philipp Stephani suggested about a month ago on the lualatex-dev list the introduction of a "LaTeX 2.2" format with expl3 and xpackages (and fontspec) preloaded. So what is the "official" meaning of the LaTeX3 team? Are there any plans for a test format? Or is it not intended/possible/ ? Such a format could be a very good test for stability and useability, would show progress to the users and could be distributed via TLcontrib so the normal user would not be confused by this, but the experienced user could easily test and try LaTeX3. Cheers Arno --------------enigB0581ADB0365A0E896AD2C23 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1zjbEACgkQcYXUw/rerZ4aGwCgt/yMxxdNA3lxCENVL5FmPJlp E64AnidAcIsnopd0rg9dLw5HnjO3xJ+Y =ikNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB0581ADB0365A0E896AD2C23--