Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p18HhB9e003812 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:43:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 25912 invoked by alias); 8 Feb 2011 17:43:06 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Feb 2011 17:43:05 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx078) with SMTP; 08 Feb 2011 18:43:05 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p18Hedcm007317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:40:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p18G3sTt003651; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:40:27 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 1142055 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:40:27 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p18HURMk028480 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:30:27 +0100 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p18HURST012717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:30:27 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p18HUQBq008313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:30:26 +0100 Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p18HUBv1026935 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:30:14 +0100 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmrO9-0006x9-R9 for LATEX-L@URZ.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:30:05 +0100 Received: from orc05.imf.au.dk ([130.225.20.35]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:30:05 +0100 Received: from burner+usenet by orc05.imf.au.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:30:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Lines: 41 References: <4D5100CC.5040006@GMX.DE> <4D5102CE.1090509@GMX.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: orc05.imf.au.dk User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GFvB5IOPXJ91dBl7tg9QM11iPSI= X-Spam-Flag: No X-Envelope-From: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.70 required=5 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,L_P0F_Linux,SARE_MILLIONSOF,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, URIBL_RHS_DSN,URIBL_RHS_POST Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 11:52:08 -0500 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Rasmus Villemoes Organization: D03 Subject: Re: latexsearch.com: a new resource for mathematical typesetting To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p6i75npGen84eVAEFK/syJmFuaL1OLtauwJ5R/kaZ9HAe8peGX1DeqJL7BW4 1X28hmBsSaikXt0ebYfUaHmtXkk7HChP+4IT8t5foOuRzC8vyH8YP07l+7OgkY63m+qRZCiPVOZg mL0OA==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6589 Juergen Fenn writes: > Am 08.02.11 09:37 schrieb Juergen Fenn: > >> But unfortunately I did not get any code snippets from there, > > I have to correct this: You get the LaTeX source by simply copy and > pasting the formulae... it's as simple as that, e.g.: [snip; my eyes can't watch this] Oh my FSM. Is that actually supposed to _help_ anybody? I mean, if MeasureTheoryStudent2011 doesn't know how to get the abbreviation for "almost everywhere" included in an equation, and she finds this p^{\rm{i}} \left( {{\mathbf{x}} ( {\text{t}}),{\mathbf{u}} (t), t} \right) = 0,\quad {\text{a}} . {\text{e}}.\quad i = 1, \ldots l wouldn't it be much better if she just wrote "$$f(x) = 0, a.e.$$" in her hand-in, and then had a helpful TA explain one of the right ways of doing it. The above is certainly not one of them. If you post LaTeX code online, and especially if you post "millions of snippets", for others to learn from and be inspired by, I believe you have a certain responsibility that that code is not awful and misguiding. If students are exposed to code of the "quality" and unnecessary complexity on latexsearch.com, it's no wonder they turn elsewhere for typesetting math. Actually (and ideally), code snippets should not be published without being accompanied by a few explanations. Variants such as f(x) = 0, \quad \text{a.e.} f(x) = 0 \qquad \textrm{a.e.} could all be correct, depending primarily on a stylistic choice, but an explanation of \quad and \qquad and the (subtle) difference between \text and \textrm would be helpful. -- Rasmus Villemoes