Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p0TCFn6U003581 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:15:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 6648 invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2011 12:15:44 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2011 12:15:44 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx088) with SMTP; 29 Jan 2011 13:15:44 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0TCDgdY001483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:13:43 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0T7Ug29012767; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:13:37 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 994132 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0TCDbff012953 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:13:37 +0100 Received: from mail-pw0-f49.google.com (mail-pw0-f49.google.com [209.85.160.49]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p0TCDV34026142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 13:13:36 +0100 Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so1631158pwj.22 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.132.16 with SMTP id f16mr4095665wfd.84.1296303210832; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.109] (219-90-189-158.ip.adam.com.au [219.90.189.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5sm15035729wfo.4.2011.01.29.04.13.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 04:13:29 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) References: <4D4331D6.7050603@gmx.de> <28C2364F-40C8-4E1D-B36F-DDA433DA1F19@gmail.com> <4D43EAE8.9020508@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id p0TCDbff012954 Message-ID: <7348D62A-F679-4756-9F2B-E4DDF547B012@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:43:23 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: a question of style To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4D43EAE8.9020508@gmx.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4WX0t+AtsdW2ORvUlAfcdSq7Ahyg4C/fk7uuW7VuLVQU/9lW10ossSdvlhN z8xOsZQmz6lK//XukZpQf+GHV514iXQTqOmrbPxi/MhtqVdVO5VGaIs2lRHYXuG9wnlvtUE16PjJ LYzvA==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6585 On 29/01/2011, at 8:54 PM, Arno Trautmann wrote: >> so you can then write >> >> \NewShorthand \ie {i.e.} > > That is not much shorter, but it is a start … I can't see how you could get much shorter. The important thing is that using this command gives additional context to the commands it defines. > What about adding something like \xspace automatically? Maybe with a > *-version that does not? I dislike \xspace because its abstraction is leaky. It works well almost always, but when it fails... Ensuring you can avoid it by improving the syntax is a much better idea to me. -- Will