Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p0TAJ9QV027864 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:19:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 30925 invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2011 10:19:04 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2011 10:19:03 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx046) with SMTP; 29 Jan 2011 11:19:03 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p0TAHC7w022723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:17:13 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0T7Ugux012767; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:17:03 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 993714 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:17:03 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0TAH3OQ003786 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:17:03 +0100 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p0TAGq1X017890 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:16:55 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jan 2011 10:16:51 -0000 Received: from HSI-KBW-085-216-082-118.hsi.kabelbw.de (EHLO [192.168.0.197]) [85.216.82.118] by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 29 Jan 2011 11:16:51 +0100 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX194yQtqTuZ4dVNIEpaHBrU32OrVgOuHhquDwlY51O NssnH4EWJxxQ2c User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101230 Lanikai/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D4331D6.7050603@gmx.de> <4D43AEF3.8060804@morningstar2.co.uk> <0C00E8C3-DDFE-468F-9774-F1B1B19F800F@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA651FB6DBB8DDC30C46AB515" Message-ID: <4D43E913.2030401@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:16:51 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Arno Trautmann Subject: Re: a question of style To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <0C00E8C3-DDFE-468F-9774-F1B1B19F800F@gmail.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4WX0t+AtsdW/aoqQDaDNIQvIKofqzq24/bLIpZjuDSmwSTLj22oKuCan6zz XBGG4UisiWH5EyEUBixxuIBHrzjj4lqZgQzeXvflaGsja24PnbiR3ZUDltyzWPcXjIjZ+UejFW4z GgPO7EeXjVBeg6sV1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6582 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA651FB6DBB8DDC30C46AB515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will Robertson wrote: > On 29/01/2011, at 4:38 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: >=20 >> On 'things blowing up', can you provide an example? >=20 > I think Arno just means the difference in number of characters between >=20 > \def\ie{i.e.} >=20 > and >=20 > \NewDocumentCommand \ie {} {i.e.} Exactly. It's fine that l3 is more verbose in cases it helps. But for just this kind of definition, it is total overkill and not usefull. In this case, especially the empty braces are totally strange. cheers Arno --------------enigA651FB6DBB8DDC30C46AB515 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1D6RMACgkQcYXUw/rerZ6PDQCaAmJhsVpKu9X1SRMenLg4Dv4q KnIAnA5XmQV1CGla0O1Y15R1Mpt82bmN =8CQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA651FB6DBB8DDC30C46AB515--