Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id p01Kp0Tg014270 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:51:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 6569 invoked by alias); 1 Jan 2011 20:50:55 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jan 2011 20:50:55 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx086) with SMTP; 01 Jan 2011 21:50:55 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p01KnKwB029814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:21 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oBVN143v026065; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:20 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 771964 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:20 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p01KnKZW006162 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:20 +0100 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id p01Kn7wS029727 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:11 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jan 2011 20:49:07 -0000 Received: from HSI-KBW-091-089-143-072.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de (EHLO [192.168.0.197]) [91.89.143.72] by mail.gmx.net (mp054) with SMTP; 01 Jan 2011 21:49:07 +0100 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18zLitiPnozxm/QEP6afA40SluMEhXfhUy74Ktmrb RV0PDgBwCdV0Uf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101211 Lanikai/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4D1F6F9D.9020209@laposte.net> <4D1F8145.2010308@morningstar2.co.uk> <4D1F8BFD.5000803@laposte.net> <4D1F8DFE.70205@morningstar2.co.uk> <20110101204323.GA14218@khaled-laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig99F97032B816FD64FC777C13" Message-ID: <4D1F9342.60700@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:49:06 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Arno Trautmann Subject: Re: LaTeX3 and engines To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <20110101204323.GA14218@khaled-laptop> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p7B/EeoGjzgr43/2/Eb0R8cZDLsaUXjcwGBpG69g57agcW9P2lIcBhREJ5Xp hvql1FZyXc0wvjankMXOVr9Ysb3C7f9+D+J2dy5S/+df+akaliE42jyDV6+geUjIocwEJx1H1yIv 8kYOiNg0/YLhtJNV1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6484 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig99F97032B816FD64FC777C13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 08:26:38PM +0000, Joseph Wright wrote: >> On 01/01/2011 20:18, TeXWorld wrote: >>> Thank you Joseph. >>> >>> Have the LaTeX3 team ever thought of making LaTeX3 only work with Lua= TeX >>> and XeTeX ? Why ? To integrate directly into the format fontspec >>> functionnalities for instance. >> >> We have not started on fonts for LaTeX3 yet, but to cut out pdfTeX >> would be a pretty extreme move. >=20 > Just wondering, what benefit pdftex have over luatex (with the later > being an extension of the former), Currently: speed. luaTeX is quite slow compared to pdfTeX. (A non-representative test gave me about a factor of 3 for a simple document= ) But I still hope that there will be a boost in speed =E2=80=A6 > or is it about people who are not > willing/can't switch to new engine? Do we expect such people to be > welling/able to switch to latex3 either? That's what I alway say =E2=80=A6 With LaTeX3, nobody can (and will) clai= m backwards compatibility on machine level. cheers Arno --------------enig99F97032B816FD64FC777C13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0fk0MACgkQcYXUw/rerZ7abQCgwqfgEiyvnqTqvvDZiD7dQwZx JuoAnjcArJd0TBD1QSoC+FgsbU6L6AV3 =LzLM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig99F97032B816FD64FC777C13--