Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o8K8WVkl022198 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:32:32 +0200 Received: (qmail 22952 invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2010 08:32:26 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2010 08:32:25 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx082) with SMTP; 20 Sep 2010 10:32:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o8K8UGbO004715 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:30:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8K8C6en012535; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:30:45 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 450095 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:30:45 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8K8UjEb028132 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:30:45 +0200 Received: from mail-pz0-f49.google.com (mail-pz0-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8K8VUBh014461 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:31:35 +0200 Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so1701188pzk.22 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.39.18 with SMTP id m18mr9606844wam.196.1284971437281; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from staff-251-218.wireless.adelaide.edu.au (staff-251-218.wireless.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.251.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm13052175wam.13.2010.09.20.01.30.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) References: <4C967C9B.5010706@gmx.de> <71ED7A5B-DE11-45D9-9785-95A1DC795080@gmail.com> <19607.3907.558898.274512@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <4C9711F9.8070804@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id o8K8UjEb028133 Message-ID: <488E7AB8-0048-47BC-9D5F-8DD907536420@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:00:31 +0930 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: boolean expressions in ExplSyntaxNames To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4C9711F9.8070804@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p77e5KAPs1l6v/Sb97LojnDtMgfETrECMLUO9erHzOJe+OynZRhvlGqb5A0X bbiCt2rAnnct/NAlbHMvoAL6GY+23tB3khNK7bnSLVW+CwI5D12EFi8O0kjG6WQoWUyJZa/tsAeZ e++4A==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6417 On 20/09/2010, at 5:19 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: > On 20/09/2010 08:37, Frank Mittelbach wrote: >> Personally, I would think that it isn't needed at all. Instead I would suggest >> to either drop it totally so that with expl code ~ always needs to be used for >> entering spaces or provide > > I'm with Frank on this. One clear set of switches (\ExplSyntaxOn/Off) is enough for me, and we avoid the possibility of more things 'falling through the gap'. I'm not against dropping \ExplSyntaxNames(On/Off). My only perceived benefit for them is that package authors can use them inside their own packages without having to deal with any spaces->ignored issue. But something like \ExplObeySpaces(On/Off) deals with this nicely. What happens if \ExplObeySpaces(On/Off) occurs outside of a \ExplSyntax(On/Off) pair? (I guess it'd be a no-op, but just covering bases.) -- Will