Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o2OBW5jC020413 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:32:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 17575 invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2010 11:32:00 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Mar 2010 11:32:00 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx065) with SMTP; 24 Mar 2010 12:32:00 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2OBTbkp027500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:29:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2NN1CeU002087; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:29:33 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 385543 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:29:33 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2OBTWs5001430 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:29:32 +0100 Received: from mail-fx0-f214.google.com (mail-fx0-f214.google.com [209.85.220.214]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2OBTOZn027349 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:29:27 +0100 Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so208212fxm.38 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.102.209.25 with SMTP id h25mr8191463mug.70.1269430167908; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([41.238.233.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10sm12230794mue.18.2010.03.24.04.29.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:29:25 -0700 (PDT) References: <201003040055.o240tMj3019510@f7.net> <20100311131851.GA26406@oberdiek.my-fqdn.de> <20100311201225.GA3890@khaled-laptop> <20100311202406.GA4414@oberdiek.my-fqdn.de> <20100311212544.GA4583@khaled-laptop> <20100311220430.GA4973@oberdiek.my-fqdn.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <20100324112922.GA9719@khaled-laptop> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:29:22 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Khaled Hosny Subject: Re: Babel, LuaTeX and hyphenation To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <20100311220430.GA4973@oberdiek.my-fqdn.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p77e5KAPs1l6v/Sb97LojnDtMgfETrECMLUO9erHzOJe+OynZRhvlGqvET/J 3dm2vHWnQHIuidpgLhS+P7NNYz+zyHLMY9yCwGoTDtboDaDPUTmYi5shhPJySBzZnboYr4mQK+ZF NwOSQ==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6324 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:04:30PM +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:25:44PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 09:24:06PM +0100, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:12:25PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > > > > > What about the approach we used in etex.src; redefining \patterns and > > > > \hyphenation to use corresponding lua functions, so we don't need to > > > > duplicate hyphenation files and, AFAIU, solves the catcode issue. > > > > > > \patterns is not read by Lua but by TeX, thus the catcode > > > problem remains. > > > > I don't claim that I understand anything, but do we have some example > > for the likes of me to see the problem? > > * verbatim mode > * babel shorthands > * other active characters > * ... A more concrete example showing such an issue would greatly make testing much either, I, apparently, don't know enough catcodes black magic to come with such a test file myself. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer