Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o1H1WmdA011437 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:32:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 517 invoked by alias); 17 Feb 2010 01:32:42 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Feb 2010 01:32:42 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx116) with SMTP; 17 Feb 2010 02:32:42 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1H1TQsD007186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:29:26 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1GN129N006687; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:29:15 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 389225 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:29:14 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1H1JEVX016120 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:19:14 +0100 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com (mail-ew0-f216.google.com [209.85.219.216]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1H1JArO031829 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:19:13 +0100 Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so7123561ewy.9 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:19:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.97.79 with SMTP id k15mr4647819ebn.21.1266369549650; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:19:09 -0800 (PST) References: <4B727378.8060704@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B72B36E.6010401@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B730157.5060605@morningstar2.co.uk> <08431600-FDE2-4002-8A22-81CDD6AF300B@gmail.com> <4B76BEE6.50704@gmx.de> <4B7AAD06.9030001@elzevir.fr> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f32d7afe007695f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id o1H1JEVX016121 Message-ID: <68c491a61002161719o370f501fscdc498c1dbc0edb9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:19:09 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Subject: Re: LaTeX3 8-bit only? To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4B7AAD06.9030001@elzevir.fr> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p77e5KAPs1l6v/Sb97LojnDtMgfETrECMLUO9erHzOJe6KyumPEzQo/v49H/ 6WH16A3hVxdb50dQBMe/GhyW+KflE2xKxwMOEKvHDWk7UqJoh2LvyLXsywjCkfM1ILLlYNfmOEMt /DqUA==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6293 2010/2/16 Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard : > - the very core of the kernel using only features common to pdfTeX, XeTeX and > LuaTeX (perhaps with some emulation, such as implementing pdfstrcmp in Lua). Then this very core will be implemented in the greatest common divisor, i.e. 8-Bit eTeX, while the rest of the TeX world will use all the features of LuaTeX - i.e. Lua. What do you hope to gain here? Compatability with an engine whose basic concept is now 32 years old? So we have to cope with e.g. \expandafter for the forseeable future (for some of us, probably the rest of our lives), instead of using a clean approach, i.e. a real programming language (Lua)? IMNSHO LaTeX3 would be a chance (probably the last) to burn some bridges and start with a much cleaner slate. And if LuaTeX is not really the engine you want: Fork it and make it what you need. Best Martin