Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o1B111qh028626 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:01:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 30665 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2010 01:00:56 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2010 01:00:55 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx007) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 02:00:55 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1B0wfsP018512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:58:41 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1AN16fF007776; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:58:34 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 377260 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:58:34 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1B0mY5k014974 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:48:34 +0100 Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1B0mVFM025071 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:48:34 +0100 Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so714695ewy.8 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:48:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.71.143 with SMTP id h15mr7239670ebj.31.1265849310612; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:48:30 -0800 (PST) References: <4B727378.8060704@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B729944.5050308@residenset.net> <4B72B36E.6010401@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B730157.5060605@morningstar2.co.uk> <08431600-FDE2-4002-8A22-81CDD6AF300B@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 65b2fae0bec01684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: <68c491a61002101648k71454c31qff15673326a751e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:48:30 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Schr=F6der?= Subject: Re: LaTeX3 8-bit only? To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <08431600-FDE2-4002-8A22-81CDD6AF300B@gmail.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p77e5KAPs1l6v/Sb97LojnDtMgfETrECMLUO9erHzOJe+OynZRhvlGqvET/J 3dm2vHWnQHIuidpgLhS+P7NNYz+zyHLMY9yCwGeoj9BiPgazSVDQFsQIW5ndJCbWUGBVgH7296LE WpM6A==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6249 2010/2/11 Will Robertson : > On 11/02/2010, at 8:42 AM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> However, any of these has to be done quickly: If LaTeX 3 won't be >> finished before LuaTeX, it will be obsolete anyway. > > LaTeX3 and LuaTeX are orthogonal; one does not deprecate the other. They do. I predict that people will soon (TL2011) mostly use lualatex instead of pdflatex (or xelatex). But they will use LaTeX2e. And I have not seen substantial efforts by the LaTeX3 team on lualatex - as I have not seen these efforts on xelatex nor pdflatex. The only thing ConTeXt Mk IV needs to take over most of the potential "market share" of LaTeX3 is books for end users. And they will appear eventually. Most likely before LaTeX3. Of course LaTeX will survive (probably all of us): But only as a markup language for scientific articles. And those will eventually be typeset by systems like ConTeXt or DocScape. Best Martin