Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o1B0PPNF024379 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:25:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 18479 invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2010 00:25:20 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Feb 2010 00:25:18 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx052) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 01:25:18 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1B0MbYs028344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:37 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1AN16eX007776; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:35 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 377209 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:35 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1B0MZMO013520 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:35 +0100 Received: from mail-yx0-f192.google.com (mail-yx0-f192.google.com [209.85.210.192]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1B0MTQ9028268 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:22:33 +0100 Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so626146yxe.25 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.175.2 with SMTP id x2mr3545281ybe.180.1265847748203; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?129.127.15.244? ([129.127.15.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm690658ywh.0.2010.02.10.16.22.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:22:27 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) References: <12840.1265847062@cl.cam.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id o1B0MZMO013521 Message-ID: <01B0FBA9-95AB-4246-BD9D-3E2CEC281667@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:52:22 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: LaTeX3 8-bit only? To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <12840.1265847062@cl.cam.ac.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4WX0t+AtsdW7Rkpq2CocXbjmEjLnML/Jh/D5PE3azF+jWInnrVhZfTUk/lv pMaRpBVzJUL8Ov6doxEnhKzR9w+ZVHwJO9XJrswqrHIOQL9S9fcyGTzlH7fo1X3KEJalXxvxAuM1 s4yQQ==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6246 On 11/02/2010, at 10:41 AM, Robin Fairbairns wrote: > i thought philipp was suggesting that the luatex 2012 date may present a > final window of opportunity for latex. the real point is that there > _needn't_ be a "physical" causal relationship between luatex and latex 3 > for the final advent of luatex to kill of the ambitions of latex 3. Are we talking about "LuaTeX" or "ConTeXt Mk IV"? That's an entirely different discussion, and one in which I'm much less qualified to comment. -- Will