Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o1ANn4Hn019528 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:49:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 29035 invoked by alias); 10 Feb 2010 23:48:59 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Feb 2010 23:48:59 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx096) with SMTP; 11 Feb 2010 00:48:59 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1ANl648003738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:47:06 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1AN16dh007776; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:59 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 377112 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:59 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o1ANkxLM011549 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:59 +0100 Received: from mail-yw0-f188.google.com (mail-yw0-f188.google.com [209.85.211.188]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1ANktK0003643 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:46:59 +0100 Received: by ywh26 with SMTP id 26so609116ywh.26 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.75.8 with SMTP id x8mr1151655yba.126.1265845614462; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?129.127.15.244? ([129.127.15.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm678697ywh.18.2010.02.10.15.46.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:46:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) References: <4B727378.8060704@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B729944.5050308@residenset.net> <4B72B36E.6010401@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B730157.5060605@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id o1ANkxLM011550 Message-ID: <08431600-FDE2-4002-8A22-81CDD6AF300B@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:16:48 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: LaTeX3 8-bit only? To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p77e5KAPs1l6v/Sb97LojnDtMgfETrECMLUO9erHzOJe+OynZRhvlGqvET/J 3dm2vHWnQHIuidpgLhS+P7NNYz+zyHLMY9yCwE++kMWpn0hIfcV3n8STYQjiBNEv//iokn+zIYdI NZYDQ==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6243 On 11/02/2010, at 8:42 AM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > However, any of these has to be done quickly: If LaTeX 3 won't be finished before LuaTeX, it will be obsolete anyway. LaTeX3 and LuaTeX are orthogonal; one does not deprecate the other. Certain aspects of the work the LaTeX3 project have done, such as the expl3 macro language, might become less useful when/if LuaTeX is the *only* widely used TeX engine. But until then LaTeX3 will not assume the presence of a Lua programming environment. LuaTeX will not be backwards compatible with pdfTeX in the generated output (i.e., two identical documents may have slightly different hyphenation/justification choices and therefore different page breaks). While the changes will obviously be rather small, I don't think anyone can really predict when pdfTeX will stop being used. -- Will