Return-Path: Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id o0MGnUDo019944 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:49:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 23548 invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2010 16:49:25 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2010 16:49:21 -0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.100.212] by mx0.gmx.net (mx031) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2010 17:49:21 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o0MGlYQE000551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:47:35 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o0MFPeTA020043; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:47:29 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 16.0) with spool id 387904 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:47:29 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o0MGlTXJ024153 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:47:29 +0100 Received: from smtp112.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp112.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.75]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with SMTP id o0MGlGep032004 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:47:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 78030 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2010 16:40:36 -0000 Received: from g229031021.adsl.alicedsl.de (st_philipp@92.229.31.21 with plain) by smtp112.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2010 08:40:36 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: _jlT6bOswBCTfNEaYibKorijSw14_bs- X-YMail-OSG: Gd4r9koVM1npTmR6AXCxAKF9NlIjpSt4XpSokz8rDD.dYAvDfQEsMkuaI7DdbnpTi0mY1i1YuI9T0zwCQwvGCRQEHXgHPuJ4t3qoD0gT3Sj..bMnQTCJmoEyeAh7XJ96hggvsgII_d5_8012VpbCmAuS5QcUQj_DcyL0UCUXig0zlHIUe3rSNqXaryoo.yFXClFqLMbleNTlrrd_tzl00PsFJOWcnnDCcnC8e58C4H9iuiGfR90gNTXupnSjH181UIN04vjfN9oBeHleKqtQLVasRgY3Uqt7_69SKBCaqIkgBrzd9k7ll6Qzs5JiXVA75ajvdamnuG3YkOdcpLWvdaoBhm6Bgpz3UYNBKwsEnm2bKMGkCSQmj.Tww.WAECjvRupKSbnLqSuAjFd6Cq0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) References: <4B59B86F.8070007@morningstar2.co.uk> <06B4B7DE-4CBE-41AB-85F4-B81B120D858C@yahoo.de> <4B59BD1F.7090000@morningstar2.co.uk> <19289.49290.171302.534731@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <4B59C295.80408@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id o0MGlTXJ024154 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:40:34 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Philipp Stephani Subject: Re: Collision between mathtools.sty and expl3 To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4B59C295.80408@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4WX0t+AtsdW0MeYohbkppDOK+m7YvXWdPZLb0glAJGPUFUo/0MXqncIeW2j PEm4dfUKZMonmdS5C7uxwGsl7qmKMPnaGWChO0AaFlPqPme5VZfQsTh7+kbJFhX5QeiwdaRC0kBr nUbL+4v7SWdEdFgV1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6208 Am 22.01.2010 um 16:21 schrieb Joseph Wright: > On 22/01/2010 15:13, Frank Mittelbach wrote: >> if the two would work together by just using \cs_set_eq:NN for the moment then >> as a short measure we could do that until mhsetup gets sorted out. However, it >> might be the case that more is needed given that the mhsetup code is only >> "based on" expl3 concepts but was used to run standalone and was developed >> when expl3 was in an earlier stage. >> >> as Joseph said, we should sort it out one way or the other soon. > > A fix at the mhsetup end seems to be to move the definitions to \AtBeginDocument: > > \AtBeginDocument{ > \@ifundefined{if_num:w}{\MH_let:NwN \if_num:w =\ifnum}{} > \@ifundefined{if_dim:w}{\MH_let:NwN \if_dim:w =\ifdim}{} > \@ifundefined{if_case:w}{\MH_let:NwN \if_case:w =\ifcase}{} > \@ifundefined{or:}{\MH_let:NwN \or:=\or}{} > } > > (lines 93 onward). > > Philipp, can you test this works in the "real world": if so something can go to CTAN today. Yes, this seems to work fine. Thanks.