Return-Path: Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by h1439878.stratoserver.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1) with SMTP id nBG6A0Bg029950 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:10:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 3929 invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2009 06:09:55 -0000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to rainer.schoepf@gmx.net Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2009 06:09:55 -0000 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (EHLO relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) [129.206.210.211] by mx0.gmx.net (mx065) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2009 07:09:55 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBG67gMN000776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:07:42 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nBG45boV022144; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:07:31 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 380550 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:07:31 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nBG67Vjx027461 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:07:31 +0100 Received: from mail-yw0-f202.google.com (mail-yw0-f202.google.com [209.85.211.202]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nBG67QmQ000607 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:07:30 +0100 Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so737939ywh.26 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.27.31 with SMTP id a31mr954000yba.296.1260943646397; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.103? (122-49-173-176.ip.adam.com.au [122.49.173.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm244651ywf.20.2009.12.15.22.07.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:07:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) References: <4B24DF6E.80801@morningstar2.co.uk> <4B24F0A2.4010807@morningstar2.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Whitelist: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id nBG67Vjx027462 Message-ID: <806529DB-4503-4D1F-9D72-54F829BDF087@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:37:19 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: \hfil, \hfill, ... To: LATEX-L@listserv.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: <4B24F0A2.4010807@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-GMX-Antispam: 0 (Mail was not recognized as spam); Detail=5D7Q89H36p4L00VTXC6D4q0N+AH0PUCnetdm6+jp8LGPxQjTA5kFyVhx4i9dm8gtEcziC yoNz9ye38VygtipsUAAyUHmsh2r9pNB9RdrSsszQ4iZkhJex99vMJGoIjpECksO3L9s3yYgClJY6 VsEHA==V1; X-Resent-By: Forwarder X-Resent-For: rainer.schoepf@gmx.net X-Resent-To: rainer@rainer-schoepf.de X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 85.214.41.38 Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6201 On 14/12/2009, at 12:18 AM, Joseph Wright wrote: > On 13/12/2009 12:34, Joseph Wright wrote: >> Currently, \hfil is renamed to \tex_hfil:D but not then given another >> interface. The same seems to apply to related functions. Am I missing >> something here? > > Same question applies to \kern, etc. You're definitely right; there is a lot of missing stuff. Some of which being important and necessary to have dedicated expl3 naming support and others not so much. I think the best option -- and this applies to everyone :) -- for such missing areas in expl3/xpackages is to write your own wrappers and if they work well then propose them as candidates for a new l3xyz module. Sorry for the slow reply now and in general; I'm busier than usual on my thesis for the time being. -- Will