Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936)
References: <19189.17593.814557.704925@morse.mittelbach-online.de>           
            <4AF5A79B.9040003@residenset.net>           
            <19189.49743.74826.581704@morse.mittelbach-online.de>           
            <004001ca6051$e9e35e10$bdaa1a30$@de>           
            <19192.38156.431785.622764@morse.mittelbach-online.de>           
            <002101ca61d4$f322ddf0$d96899d0$@de>,
            <20C53106-7650-4EAC-82C1-BEF0EFA17816@gmail.com>           
            <OFD2B0279F.8D5C639A-ON8025766A.0056C62C-8025766A.0056C632@mcs-notes1.open.ac.uk>,
            <BFAE70AD-92D2-4891-AC41-A7C763CE6B31@gmail.com>
            <OF3EBC4595.197138D2-ON8025766B.004A7C04-8025766B.004A7C17@mcs-notes1.open.ac.uk>
Message-ID:  <01F3ED6A-4601-4388-B029-1FB92C3D811E@gmail.com>
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:31:29 +1030
Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project
              <LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>
Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project <LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE>
From: Will Robertson <wspr81@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: ltx and mml
To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE
In-Reply-To:  <OF3EBC4595.197138D2-ON8025766B.004A7C04-8025766B.004A7C17@mcs-notes1.open.ac.uk>
Precedence: list
Status: R

On 12/11/2009, at 12:03 AM, Chris Rowley wrote:

>>> (oh, ASAP I guess) but considering Hans has had MathML2 rendering  
>>> in ConTeXt
> That seems to be totally irrelevant to a LATEX list.

Weren't you the one that said LaTeX's best chance of survival was by  
leveraging ConTeXt MkIV as a backend? (Excuse the error if I'm wrong;  
I'm still sleep deprived.)

> Also, your clear lack of interest is odd given all the time you have  
> put into the basic stuff on LaTeX-math for XeTeX/Unicode that I  
> thought the group could combine with David's stuff.

When I wrote my message I was unaware of the (seemingly otherwise  
invisible?) pmml2tex. This changes things considerably, since it means  
no-one will have to parse XML in LaTeX.

> Finally, for PR reasons if nothing else, it would be useful for mml  
> and latex to work well together.


It's not that I'm not interested (!) but I'm already overloaded. If it  
turns out that the best way to render LaTeX++ maths is by first  
converting our markup to MathML before rendering it from that form,  
then your working group could well be a critical link in the chain.

I'm sorry if I misconstrued your original message; to me it sounded  
like you "just" wanted a way to render MathML nicely to PDF. If that's  
a goal, rather than a requirement for some new software, I find it  
hard to understand why bypassing ConTeXt is very productive. I do  
believe there is scope for two major TeX macro packages (otherwise I  
wouldn't be here), but we don't do ourselves any favours by  
duplicating our friends' efforts.

Basically, count me in, but I can't guarantee buckets of time.

-- Will