Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:17:23 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB2HMhM007330 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:17:22 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAB2EQp7020300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:14:26 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAAN1plW026172; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:14:26 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 350192 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:14:26 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAB2EQx8008421 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:14:26 +0100 Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nAB2ELEd029944 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:14:25 +0100 Received: by yxe2 with SMTP id 2so592675yxe.18 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.75.6 with SMTP id x6mr1582571yba.283.1257905660698; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?129.127.15.244? ([129.127.15.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm499395ywh.32.2009.11.10.18.14.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:14:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) References: <19189.17593.814557.704925@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <4AF5A79B.9040003@residenset.net> <19189.49743.74826.581704@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <004001ca6051$e9e35e10$bdaa1a30$@de> <19192.38156.431785.622764@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <002101ca61d4$f322ddf0$d96899d0$@de>, <20C53106-7650-4EAC-82C1-BEF0EFA17816@gmail.com> <200911102144.nAALiX8D024641@edinburgh.nag.co.uk> <200911102238.nAAMc9WM026307@edinburgh.nag.co.uk> <42D1831D-D62C-4D86-AE6A-96EEDC0488F9@gmail.com> <200911110207.nAB27w8S027223@edinburgh.nag.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Whitelist: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:44:15 +1030 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Will Robertson Subject: Re: mathml (was: an object type for heading commands) To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <200911110207.nAB27w8S027223@edinburgh.nag.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 02:17:23.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[1ACE3DE0:01CA6275] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6168 On 11/11/2009, at 12:37 PM, David Carlisle wrote: >> Your unicode.xml file defines math alphabets with names \mathsfbfsl >> and so on which is similar to what I have in unicode-math but not >> identical. Do they come from anywhere or are they essentially >> arbitrary? > > > essentially arbitrary but they were used (in some cases including > hacking metafont parameters to make font variants) to make the > example png images for the 1Dxxx plane a alphanumeric blocks > that were in the mathml2 spec and now the entities spec. > But I'm not sure I even have those fonts any more, perhaps on an > archive > tape somewhere... If you're not particularly attached to your names, then, I'll keep with what I've got for now. At some later stage we (the general "we") can discuss better ones, if necessary. >> If you're happy to experiment, then my unicode-math package should >> help you out there: >> > > Thanks, but first got to work out how best to do mstack and mlongdiv > which have been added to the spec since I last really stressed this. Sure, no worries. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help if you ever need to typeset unicode maths later on. (If you're just interested in the glyphs on their own, then you may as well just use XeTeX/LuaTeX and use \char"1D767 (etc. to infinity) but if you want actual examples of maths...) -- Will