Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:55:20 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8AtK9H003832 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:55:21 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA8AqO6F023884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:52:24 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA7N22Gb013298; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:52:15 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 351380 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:52:15 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA8AqFLN013082 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:52:15 +0100 Received: from mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.14]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nA8Aq0Dw023597 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:52:03 +0100 Received: from slogin-serv3.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.0.74] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk) by mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 1N75NH-0006eN-00 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:51:59 +0000 X-Mailer: MH-E 8.0.3; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 22.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id nA8AqFLN013083 Message-ID: <4805.1257677519@cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:51:59 +0000 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Robin Fairbairns Subject: Re: Please don't \RequirePackage{lmodern} To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:30:44 +1030. <6E5EFB24-EA7F-446C-AAEA-D08CFDADB89D@gmail.com> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2009 10:55:20.0938 (UTC) FILETIME=[F73A7CA0:01CA6061] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6145 Will Robertson wrote: > On 08/11/2009, at 3:30 AM, Lars Hellström wrote: > > > Well, I think the T1 encoding default EC fonts beat both (at least > > if we restrict ourselves to the latin script; certainly part of the > > size of CM-Super is due to providing glyphs from other scripts as > > well, and these days drivers tend to subset fonts anyway). > > I didn't think there were PostScript Type 1 EC fonts? there aren't -- just this enormous monolithic lump called cm-super. the thing that irritates me about it is that (almost) every font is present in all sizes from 5-11, and then the magsteps to 35.83, so that not only is each font huge, there are also an awful lot of them (409 on the archive just now -- 60 mbytes or so). all as described in the faq. i dunno why i bother... > > First, I never objected to using the T1 encoding. When I'm not > > generating PDF, there is no problem with getting EC glyphs. > > Oh, you meant bitmap anyway. what viewer nowadays _doesn't_ work with type 1? or is it just that my feeble eyes don't see some terrible failing? r