Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:25:21 +0100 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9TGPJ9R006888 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:25:19 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9TGMvin028625 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:57 +0100 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9TE06Hh025116; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:53 +0100 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 357712 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:52 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9TGMqUO006622 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:52 +0100 Received: from csep02.cliche.se (csep02.cliche.se [195.249.40.184]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n9TGMZvh028271 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:40 +0100 Received: from hexley.local (unknown [130.239.119.186]) by csep02.cliche.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01105186615 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:22:08 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20091028141650.GA3488@irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de> <19176.37836.964673.628156@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <20091028231433.GA4001@irwin.uni-mannheim.de> <19177.18303.198573.261636@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <20091029135720.GA4353@irwin.vpn.uni-freiburg.de> <1256826411.3494.226.camel@britten> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id n9TGMqUO006623 Message-ID: <4AE9C190.50106@residenset.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:23:44 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?UTF-8?B?TGFycyBIZWxsc3Ryw7Zt?= Subject: Re: Encoding subset for lm* and tg* To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <1256826411.3494.226.camel@britten> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2009 16:25:21.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[691630E0:01CA58B4] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6121 Marcin Woliński skrev: > Dnia 2009-10-29, czw o godzinie 14:57 +0100, Heiko Oberdiek pisze: >> Additionally the lm and tg fonts provide glyphs at >> * slot 81/121o/51h (/Orogate) >> * slot 113/161o/71h (/orogate) >> * slot 115/163o/73h (/longs, U+017F) > > That's true and we would be more than happy if these could be officially > introduced into TS1. ‘Long s’ is probably something that needs no > explanations. ‘O rogate’ (Polish for ‘horned o’) is a historical > character that was used in the Polish language around 16th century. We > need it for publishing old-Polish texts. TS1 is probably not the right place for these, as they seem to be letters; it is sometimes desirable to have ligatures producing the long s, and I suppose you'd want hyphenation also for words involving the horned o. To use them cleanly, you should design an encoding that you would use instead of T1. Given the Polish connection, an idea could be to extend OT4 (though reusing that exact name is not necessarily a good idea). fntguide.tex says what's involved on the LaTeX side. http://mirror.ctan.org/fonts/utilities/fontinst/doc/encspecs/encspecs.tex goes through the issues involved in designing an encoding. > As for names, \textlongs, > \textorogate, and \textOrogate are probably acceptable. The LICR commands are of course independent of the exact encoding providing the character. Could \k{o} work for \textorogate, though? (I mean as a way of encoding it, not necessarily as a way of producing a reasonable glyph, since the default behaviour of \k can be overridden using composites.) Lars Hellström