Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:46:11 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7RMkAtc024154 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:46:10 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7RMgx9k019841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:43:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7RM2RpW008953; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:42:54 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 283739 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:42:53 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7RMgr9U012591 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:42:53 +0200 Received: from mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk (mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.0.14]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7RMgi1Q019600 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:42:47 +0200 Received: from slogin-serv3.cl.cam.ac.uk ([128.232.0.74] helo=cl.cam.ac.uk) by mta2.cl.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.092 #1) id 1Mgng4-0002mA-00 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:42:44 +0100 X-Mailer: MH-E 8.0.3; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 22.2.1 Message-ID: <11608.1251412963@cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:42:43 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Robin Fairbairns Subject: Re: [REQ] "TeX: Rejoining the mainstream" - comments requested To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:03:16 +0100. Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2009 22:46:11.0432 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CBFA680:01CA2768] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6031 J.Fine wrote: > Thank you for this. On Ubuntu, evince PDF viewer to Emacs, I get > == > A > Achievements of LTEX (the first fifteen years) > == > from TeX input > Achievements of \LaTeX{}( the first fifteen years) cutting and pasting from any tex-ish pdf tends to be dodgy. there are methods ([cm]map packages, for example) that get better text out, but they'll never cope with a knuth/lamport "stupid logo" (tm). that said, i've never seen that particular oddity, so it may be a special oddity of your pdf viewer (i tend only to use acrorubbish viewer, but go to xpdf in extremis). > I've not been able to test your suggested fix for the 'fi' problem yet. the suggestion was new to me, too, and my home machine has a crocked old lm font distribution, so it probably won't work here. for the ligatures, as well as the weird character codes, the *map packages are the way to go, in general. robin