Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:38:55 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7RIctxe017123 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:38:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7RIZ26Z010102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:35:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7RGOOsq024430; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:34:57 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 299402 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:34:57 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7RIYvG3026190 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:34:57 +0200 Received: from pluto.open.ac.uk (pluto.open.ac.uk [137.108.145.32]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7RIYeRu009941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:34:44 +0200 Received: from mulberry.open.ac.uk ([137.108.170.73]) by pluto.open.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgjo1-0000tI-0U for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:34:41 +0100 Received: from KIELDERCMS1.open.ac.uk ([137.108.140.185]) by mulberry.open.ac.uk ([137.108.170.73]) with mapi; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:34:40 +0100 Thread-Topic: [REQ] "TeX: Rejoining the mainstream" - comments requested Thread-Index: AconNjVQ+aww9zE7SGqPRa/LarW2rAADj5Hk References: Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id n7RIYvG3026191 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:30:28 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: "J.Fine" Subject: Re: [REQ] "TeX: Rejoining the mainstream" - comments requested To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2009 18:38:55.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2139720:01CA2745] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6023 Hello If I get a before-and-after pair in time, I'll use it. Regarding the 'tone of criticism', I made a comparison based on what I hoped were reasonable criteria. If you think there's a big plus (for LaTeX) or minus (for Python) please do let me know. Again, I'm willing to make changes (or even add a rebuttal) to the presentation. Jonathan ________________________________________ From: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project [LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE] On Behalf Of Will Robertson [wspr81@GMAIL.COM] Sent: 27 August 2009 17:44 To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE Subject: Re: [REQ] "TeX: Rejoining the mainstream" - comments requested (Sent from my phone. Excuse the brevity.) On 28/08/2009, at 1:14, "J.Fine" wrote: > Here's the URL for the EuroTeX talk: > > I appreciate the suggestions for improvements to the website, although I'm not partial to the tone of the criticism. One day I'll try and take a look to improve things. * * * It's probably not on purpose, but I'm afraid you couldn't misrepresent the expl3 code more if you tried in your example. I would appreciate it if you could remove that code snippet until we have a chance to discuss a better alternative. Best regards, Will The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).