Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:44:01 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BDhwL0015205 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:43:58 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7BDd3VG007258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:39:03 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7BCdJsl028140; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:57 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 291445 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:57 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7BDcvYG001402 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:57 +0200 Received: from ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk (ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.184]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7BDcdf0006855 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:43 +0200 Received: from ueams02.uea.ac.uk (ueams02.uea.ac.uk [139.222.131.131]) by ueamailgate01.uea.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7BDcdXJ002691 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:39 +0100 Received: from [139.222.203.53] by ueams02.uea.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MarYj-0004kh-HS for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:37 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A7921CF.5020803@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A7A1505.4040604@residenset.net> <4A7AD930.2090106@residenset.net> <8516B615-51AA-4D90-BB7D-A9E122AA0335@gmail.com> <4A816C31.9080401@residenset.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Canit-CHI2: 0.42 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN, outgoing) X-CanItPRO-Stream: UEA:outgoing (inherits from UEA:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 27977559 - 62eeef1e643e X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 139.222.131.184 Message-ID: <4A817463.8000805@morningstar2.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:43 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: Joseph Wright Subject: Re: xparse To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4A816C31.9080401@residenset.net> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2009 13:44:01.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8BA1340:01CA1A89] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5884 Lars Hellström wrote: >> } >> \cs_generate_variant:Nn \foo_internal:n {V} > > I thought O was the appropriate variant for expanding a token list > control sequence? The re-factor saw us drop "O", and sort-of downgrade "o" (we use it less). The V specifier lets you write both \foo_internal:V \l_my_tl % A macro at the TeX level and \foo_internal:V \l_my_toks % A toks at the TeX level whereas \foo_internal:o would need \foo_internal:o {\l_my_tl} \foo_internal:o { \toks_use:N \l_my_toks } So V is preferred for accessing variables (as the internal structure is not important), and o is meant for cases which go beyond simply getting a variable value "out". -- Joseph Wright