Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:36:11 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7B8aAfD005509 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:36:10 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7B8WGeK017629 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:32:16 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7B7w6Jg010332; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:32:15 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 287328 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:32:15 +0200 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7B8WFOX029711 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:32:15 +0200 Received: from pluto.open.ac.uk (pluto.open.ac.uk [137.108.145.32]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7B8VHMR016717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:31:21 +0200 Received: from mulberry.open.ac.uk ([137.108.170.73]) by pluto.open.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MamlE-0006bT-KT for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:31:16 +0100 Received: from KIELDERCMS1.open.ac.uk ([137.108.140.186]) by mulberry.open.ac.uk ([137.108.170.73]) with mapi; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:31:12 +0100 Thread-Topic: xparse Thread-Index: AcoaXUXpM70iC/ApRESM8yrfzzjsCAAAA/Gg References: <4A7921CF.5020803@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A7A1505.4040604@residenset.net> <4A7AD930.2090106@residenset.net> <8516B615-51AA-4D90-BB7D-A9E122AA0335@gmail.com> <4A804317.6050909@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A80469B.5040305@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A804ED7.4040305@morningstar2.co.uk> <4A812A23.2000808@morningstar2.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de id n7B8WFOX029712 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:31:12 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: "J.Fine" Subject: Re: xparse To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <4A812A23.2000808@morningstar2.co.uk> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2009 08:36:11.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7D6EDC0:01CA1A5E] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5875 Joseph wrote: > J.Fine wrote: > > Perhaps you'll find, when you remove 'TeX macros' from the requirements > specification you'll find that it's better not to use TeX macros for the > implementation. > > Fundamental point, of course, but the current plan is that LaTeX3 will > work with pdfTeX, XeTeX and LuaTeX. If we were going down the ConTeXt > "LuaTeX-only" route, then I'd quite possibly agree. But we're not (at > the moment!). You're claiming here that there is a requirement here to use TeX macros, namely use with pdfTeX etc. But what you say does not impose such a requirement. Don Knuth's WEB system uses a custom program WEAVE to create a TeX input file from a .web file. It's perfectly possible to use a similar front end for processing documents written in the LaTeX syntax. You snipped: === Surely to do this you will need a LaTeX->XML translator written in /some other language/. And once you have that, why do you need an implementation written in TeX macros? And come to that, the translator will surely want access to > > \DeclareDocumentCommand \section { s o m } { > > % Code here > > } === Any comments here? -- Jonathan The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302).