Received: from mail.proteosys.com ([213.139.130.197]) by nummer-3.proteosys with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:42:26 +0200 Received: by mail.proteosys.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n79NgSDH005705 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:42:28 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (listserv.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.94]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n79NaiSB014771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:45 +0200 Received: from listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n79M1Im5014993; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:37 +0200 Received: by LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.5) with spool id 292078 for LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:37 +0200 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by listserv.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n79Nabhh023225 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:37 +0200 Received: from mordell.elzevir.fr (mordell.elzevir.fr [92.243.3.74]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n79NaQwO014601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:30 +0200 Received: from roth.elzevir.fr (thue.elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by mordell.elzevir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAFF835EC9 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roth.elzevir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806CBFEB for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:26 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A781594.8060202@elzevir.fr> <4A782571.60500@elzevir.fr> <19068.9177.667665.43592@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <200908082256.n78Mu726027708@relay.uni-heidelberg.de> <19070.59810.146417.982924@morse.mittelbach-online.de> <200908091717.n79HHln6005935@relay.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <4A7F5D7A.5060708@elzevir.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:36:26 +0200 Reply-To: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project Sender: Mailing list for the LaTeX3 project From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= Subject: Re: using expl3 for latex2e packages To: LATEX-L@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE In-Reply-To: <200908091717.n79HHln6005935@relay.uni-heidelberg.de> Precedence: list List-Help: , List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: List-Archive: X-ProteoSys-SPAM-Score: -6.599 () BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 213.139.130.197 Return-Path: owner-latex-l@LISTSERV.UNI-HEIDELBERG.DE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2009 23:42:26.0611 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D139830:01CA194B] Status: R X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5848 Alexander Cherepanov a écrit : >> particular point in time and being allowed to change it would violate the >> right of people to express a viewpoint and have it been heard > > First problem is that nobody can distribute l3newsXX now because > there's no license for it at all. If you want anybody to distribute > l3newsXX you should at least give them permission to do this. I think you take it the wrong way, the first question is: do the LaTeX team want anybody to distribute l3newsNN.pdf? There is a problem with the current status only if the answer is yes. And since l3news are not on CTAN, maybe it means the team doesn't want it to be distributed except on the latex-project site. > Second problem is that Debian folks treat any bits as software (and I > agree with them) so license should be a free software license if you > want Debian to distribute l3newsXX. (Note that this is just my > understanding, not a statement by Debian.) > Actually, this is not Debian-specific. TeX Live also tends to distribute only free content (be it software and documentation) and sometimes refuses to include (or removes) documentation for which the source is not available. (Though TeX Live's criterion for "free" are less drastic than Debian's: eg, TeX Live accepts documents using non-free fonts while Debian insists that eveything must build from source on a free system, and TeX Live accepts invariant sections and the like in GFDL.) Manuel.